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Filthy

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Of what?
Look at the curves in Italy in South Korea.
You're looking at two weeks of ramp up followed by plateauing for a couple weeks.
That's where they are at right now.
Our two week ramp up is coming right now. Whether we plateau in a couple weeks or shoot the moon like Italy will depend on social distancing and testing strategies.

South Korea has people recovering now and their plateau phase and new cases starting to be lower than recovery.
So we will have to see how long the taper off takes. You can look at China there but they are pretty unique due to being in ground zero.


Regardless the active phase and choices on whether we test enough or not are right now into the next two weeks.

@spakuri it says we will be overrun by May. Thats 6 to 8 weeks away. But even Italy which shot the moon is starting to flattened before that time so I don't think that's accurate. But never underestimate American ingenuity. We can screw up with the best of them.

So based on existing countries if we do really well in our social distancing you're looking at probably 4 to 6 weeks of slow down to prevent disaster then recovery starts following and will have to see how long that takes.
Risk factors like obesity are also more prevalent here, and our response has been slower than Italy
 

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Risk factors like obesity are also more prevalent here, and our response has been slower than Italy

Our case load is on the same trajectory as Italy and South Korea for the same time line. Nothing is inevitable right now.

Like I said depends on what we do And these next couple of weeks. We could bungle It and shoot the moon or not. I've already expressed my concern about the lack of testing.
 
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Of what?
Look at the curves in Italy in South Korea.
You're looking at two weeks of ramp up followed by plateauing for a couple weeks.
That's where they are at right now.
Our two week ramp up is coming right now. Whether we plateau in a couple weeks or shoot the moon like Italy will depend on social distancing and testing strategies.

South Korea has people recovering now and their plateau phase and new cases starting to be lower than recovery.
So we will have to see how long the taper off takes. You can look at China there but they are pretty unique due to being in ground zero.


Regardless the active phase and choices on whether we test enough or not are right now into the next two weeks.

@spakuri it says we will be overrun by May. Thats 6 to 8 weeks away. But even Italy which shot the moon is starting to flattened before that time so I don't think that's accurate. But never underestimate American ingenuity. We can screw up with the best of them.

So based on existing countries if we do really well in our social distancing you're looking at probably 4 to 6 weeks of slow down to prevent disaster then recovery starts following and will have to see how long that takes.
I agree, ramp up until April 1st (then all the bullshit April Fool's jokes about us being cured/end of the world). After a week of holding numbers, then you'll start seeing dropping numbers. By May 1st people will be running out of their homes to bars/clubs/restaurants/shows/planes/etc
 

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personally I think 30-50% of US pop has been exposed
that number could be low

It was loose in november...many peoples winter cold/flu may have been this new strain

Nature of Global Travel

Of course I could be wrong, but if it is indeed so easy to transmit then it is already everywhere.


Depending on how you look at it, my theory could be a good thing or a bad thing.

-Good because death rate is much lower likely overall.
-Bad thing because it may have spread to the weak immune system individuals of our population already.

Of course, I could be way the fuck off and I will be the fist to admit so.
 

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I wish that were true. You only need 60 or 70% infected to get enough herd immunity to drastically slow it down.
who knows

we basically have no data right now

testing is pretty much non existent as we know

Lots of people I know that don't usually get sick were sick within the last 2-3 months, to varying degrees.
 

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Our case load is on the same trajectory as Italy and South Korea for the same time line. Nothing is inevitable right now.

Like I said depends on what we do And these next couple of weeks. We could bungle It and shoot the moon or not. I've already expressed my concern about the lack of testing.
i'm of the opinion that the window for the things that separate the S Korea curve from the Italy curve, like restricting borders and advocating for temporary social isolation, has already closed...especially when I see the lack of concern in our general population.

Even our President is refusing to get tested after exposure.
 

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i'm of the opinion that the window for the things that separate the S Korea curve from the Italy curve, like restricting borders and advocating for temporary social isolation, has already closed...especially when I see the lack of concern in our general population.

Even our President is refusing to get tested after exposure.
I hope you're wrong. America has an incredible ability to pull of great feats or screw it up in ways we could never imagine.
 

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lol

This is a great way to put my frustration that the fix is to netflix and chill...and that's too hard for people

 

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who knows

we basically have no data right now

testing is pretty much non existent as we know

Lots of people I know that don't usually get sick were sick within the last 2-3 months, to varying degrees.
We have lots of data
The United states runs a realtime database of hospital flu-like illnesses to catch this type of thing in our own backyard


Note this:


Seattle...

Proven flu tests going down:


Bump in flu like illness going up:


You can guess that's probably Coronavirus and not another unknown illness. We also have respiratory virus panels for others and while those are not reported into this the same way, they don't have a habit up outbreaks this time of the year. So yeah, that's corona right there.
 
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i predict in 2 weeks all of u s will be in self quarantine because of all the idiots roaming around and getting infected and passing it on to old people and killing them
 

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Here's your Coronavirus Rambo John J @Inside Job


Overlaying the illness to known flu tests to find flu like that isn't flu...




So if your hard black line falls with the grey lines, its historically the usual background virus.
But look at Missouri. And note all the recent upticks where historically everything is going down.
There's your coronavirus
 

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more:

red line is h1n1 2009 data
Gray lines are historical background expectations.
Black line is this year
Look for areas the black line leaves the historical norm, especially for TRENDS not data points. Going up when its always been going down?? Probably Coronavirus



Find your region.



But again, you could look at weather patterns and cold spells that made people stay in etc. But I wouldn't assume that given the trade off.