And a provincial sales tax.
But it is not airborne correct? It will halt particles that are infected to and from your face, for at least a set time. provided that you are using a proper mask.
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For respiratory droplet transmission...
If you're sick face mask limit the spread of your respiratory droplets. This limits the spread of disease. The fact that viruses can go through it doesn't matter because you still limit respiratory droplet transmission.
Wear mask when you're sick. it reduces your distance of spread which reduces disease spread.
if you're well and going to be around somebody who's sick especially in an enclosed area a mask will help you. The sick person should be wearing a mask as well. But many times they don't in reality. Imagine a subway car. if you have one mask here the very best thing you could do is take it out of the box and put it on the sick person. That is the best use of resources and the proven result. If you have two masks both of you should wear one. so for instance if you have somebody in your house who is sick you should isolate them to one room to care for them to not spread disease all over the house. That person should have a mask on and so should you when you're caring for them. Hey that sounds like healthcare right?
Now what about walking around. first off I don't have enough mask for everybody. And even if I did, people don't wear their mask right. People touch their face. People adjust the mask. This is a new virus and I will not be so arrogant to tell you exactly how it transmits. However for most respiratory droplet viruses your main spread is going to be coughing sneezing and touching those things and somehow transmitting them to your mucous membranes. Could somebody sneeze or cough into the air and you walk into it and breathe it in. Sure. And in lab settings flu and other things including this show that they can hang out in the air for a while. But that's not considered to be the primary mode of transmission.
so you're walking around everywhere and they're arrested droplets because people are nasty coughing is sneezing and touching door knobs and stuff like that. The most important thing you can do is keep 3-6 ft away from well people and 6 ft away from sick people and never touch your face. Then wash your hands often. What if you add a mask to this? Well what we see in studies is that people adjust their mask and touch their face more while they're wearing their mask. So does that help? You touching the mask in your face is a harm. Your mask stopping you from getting rest for a droplets from the air from somebody who's coughing around near you is a benefit. Does this out do that benefit? Probably not.
The constant use of masks in Asia has to do with a cultural phenomenon and less science. There's pollution in some areas. Some areas sick people. Then there's the fact that these areas often have experience SARS and things like that in the past. And it's stuck ever since.
So should everybody who's walking around in a grocery store wear a mask? I don't. And there isn't good evidence to support you doing so. If you do so and you can guarantee that you will not touch that mask or your face and you know how to wash your hands and take the mask off the right way and then wash your hands afterwards, then wearing that mask while you are well might reduce your chance of transmission. but nobody can tell you exactly how much that will reduce it and there's a small chance that you will increase your transmission if you do what most people do... Touch the mask and wear it wrong.
I can't see it being a bad thing. Hell fire I wore one last week. My dad is a car sprayer and gave me some.
But after wearing it and realising the odds.
I'm not wearing it this week
My odds may improve a little bit but not enough to wear one.
I actually saw I guy wearing a ww2 one the other day.
I just avoid folks. It's like the American football rugby analogy. We don't wear helmets
Our concussion rate is lower. We just don't lead with our heads
he's just asking questions
You need to look a bit closer at that map. Looks like @VOTE TRUMP 2020 has the entirety of Florida, most of the Atlantic coast, and even the Guff coast with your precious Texas included. Ya’ll are damn near land-locked.
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Until a mask becomes a fomite, by becoming waterlogged from breath or constantly exposed, it is likely that any barrier lowers your transmission some amount. But it's probably not that much in your average walking around.
So a surgical mask probably reduces transmission. An n95 does so more. etc etc.
How does this happen when you have viruses so small? You catch the respiratory droplets and the viruses are sitting there in the droplets on your mask.
This is transient protection at different periods of time for different mask.
A surgical mask likely becomes damn near worthless after a very short period, but I can't find any confident data on when that line is, if you get a contaminated person's respiratory droplets on it and then continue wearing.
The traditional respiratory precautions in hospital settings laid out by infectious disease doctors has people changing out a cheap surgical mask almost immediately after beginning using it. There's just too many variables and questions about their efficacy for more than a very temporary period of time.
So I admit that there are studies suggesting that surgical mass will reduce droplet transmission. But these studies are evaluating a fresh mask. I can't find studies evaluating a mask that somebody has worn on a one or two hour commute, especially if it's warm or humid and the mask is getting water logged by breath and humidity
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there are several states that have their previous state lines but only Texas do I see where it sort of punched out the hunger games border. But I do see what you're saying that Florida reached over and stole our inner coastal waterway.
Yeah.
I wore one for an hour or more and I had my glasses steaming up. And because of glasses there were gaps.
I was taking it off to breath and using my hands to clean my glasses,
but even without glasses if you can smell your environment then you are not covered.
Isn't it better to touch your mask than your bare face? The mask doesn't make that more problematic, correct?
So what i get from your answer is, the masks work if you wear and handle them correctly, taking them off correctly, etc.
And how about asymptomatic individuals, isn't that good reason for a mask?
All I am gathering right now is that masks don't help only when not worn correctly, but that could be said for motor cycle helmets as well. And that not all masks help, that also goes for motor cycle helmets. that if we were to be instructed how to and when to wear the correct mask, we would be in fact help to stop the spreading the virus even if we don't show any symptoms.
Not trying to be contrarian. Thanks for your elaborate response. There's information overload regarding masks.
He’s just an actor
Of course I would agree that this is better than any mask.
But for a visit to the store? (essential store)
I don't know man. So if you can smell my fart you are breathing in my culture?
I made a bit of muck up today.
I wanted a smoke. I didn’t have a light. I asked this guy for a light. He acquiesced but begrudgingly. I was like what? Then I realised. I took two bumps threw the fag and went back to work to wash my hands,
then a homeless guy approached me on a train. I had literally 50p on me. Which I gave him. And had a chat.
it’s a scandal how these people are being cut off from society.
this guy wasn’t an addict..
christ. I’m probably worse than him.
we can find trillions bit we can’t care for our most vulnerable.
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I wear full PPE and an n95 (that I have to rotate in a set in the sun to decontaminate because everybody decided that they needed a mask all of a sudden) on a regular basis to evaluate potential covid patients at work right now.
I do not wear a mask to the grocery store or gas station, The only places that I currently go outside of work and home.
how many positives so far