General Thoughts on Georgia shooting?
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Most info is being withheld. So that's a unreasonable request.
Mcmichaels said they were in the front yard. Look at the street map. Its 3 or so yards away from the 911 caller and unoccupied dwelling. They were standing outside. The guy who filmed the shooting was also aware of something happening. Prove I'm wrong
Also what's you definition of "immediate knowledge"
It's not. We should be developing an evolving opinion on what's KNOWN.
If you want to add stuff that isn't there, at least state that it's an IF XXXXX. Just sliding it back and forth together is a type of misinformation.
We have some knowns. We have some pending info. Just separate them so the thread is built on facts and then we can at least argue the reality.
Or you can post some more "boots"
Video of the shooting:
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
DA Memo recusing himself from case and his opinons:
Georgia Law on Citizens Arest:
Map that matches police report and video.
Police Report:
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
DA Memo recusing himself from case and his opinons:
Georgia Law on Citizens Arest:
Call from neighbor that someone has entered construction site:
Footage from construction site:
Previous footage from construction site:
Map that matches police report and video.
How many of us have went into homes under construction? I'm not asking to persuade my opinion of this case. I'm asking because people in these videos act like it's a common thing that millions of people do. I'm genuinely curious if this is something that happens frequently. I had a pretty checkered upbringing and have broken my share of laws. I have never considered going into someone's home, occupied or unoccupied.
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The Big Guy
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Hes dead because he was a thief. When they get found not guilty of murder I'm gonna have a huge party. I'll invite you dont worry
Yep, happens all the time. I mentioned in this thread I'd find people checking out my house while it was being built all the time. It's a common occurance.
What did he steal?
You're conflating your ethical position with a legal one again.
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That's my personal opinion I was just sharing to you. Not meant to be a part of the legal discussions.
I cant say how I really feel because I assume I would violate terms of service.
In the end doesn't it boil down to who started the violence?
The black guy shouldn't have been in the house and was most likely a local thief.
The white guys had not business pursuing him and trying to detain
When our home was under construction we would go check the progress most weeks.
Only once did we find someone there.
A white trash couple going through the dumpster looking for copper. Not even sure how they got past the gate.
When they saw us walk up they walked to their car and said have a nice day.
I called the cops and they let them off with a warning.
I would have liked the opportunity to shoot them, but I didn't want their meth blood in my soil.
Poor people are so disgusting, they should be illegal.
Le Chat Noir
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The black guy shouldn't have been in the house and was most likely a local thief.
The white guys had not business pursuing him and trying to detain
When our home was under construction we would go check the progress most weeks.
Only once did we find someone there.
A white trash couple going through the dumpster looking for copper. Not even sure how they got past the gate.
When they saw us walk up they walked to their car and said have a nice day.
I called the cops and they let them off with a warning.
I would have liked the opportunity to shoot them, but I didn't want their meth blood in my soil.
Poor people are so disgusting, they should be illegal.
Le Chat Noir
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The Big Guy
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The only time I've ever seen anyone do this, they were stopped by a cop (who happened to live directly across the street, lol).
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Me. Good luck catching me, Jersey trash
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The Big Guy
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You ain't getting away in 10$ dress shoes
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member 3289
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You ain't catching me in your Walmart work boots
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The Big Guy
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You're either lying, because you said you couldn't own a gun. OR you are committing a felony andI got six little friends and they all run faster than you
@mysticmac and I are going to arrest you, guns blazin.
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He's talking about his revolver bb gunYou're either lying, because you said you couldn't own a gun. OR you are committing a felony and
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The Big Guy
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I'll tell you a secretYou're either lying, because you said you couldn't own a gun. OR you are committing a felony and
Whispers "gun laws dont work"
Ah ok, that makes sense.
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The Feb. 11 confrontation
According to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution, however, the property owner may have alerted another neighbor, Diego Perez, that someone was in his property Feb. 11. English lives about 90 miles away from the neighborhood, but had motion-sensor cameras installed that pinged his phone when there was someone on the property, according to Perez. Perez armed himself and walked up the road that night to check on the house, where he encountered Travis McMichael in his truck, he told the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
It wasn’t immediately clear how Travis was alerted to the Feb. 11 incident. A phone number wasn’t publicly listed for Perez, and he did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment. Attorneys for Arbery’s family also didn’t immediately respond to a VICE News request for comment, either.
“Travis saw him in the yard and Travis stopped,” Perez told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “He confronted (the man) halfway into the yard. He said (the man) reached for his waistband, and Travis got spooked and went down the road.”
Travis left and came back with his father, who apparently called the Glynn County Police Department that night, according to Perez. A police report from around 7 p.m. that night showed that a man called local police about a man roaming around a home under construction. The caller is identified in the report as Travis McMichael, and the police says that English had an "ongoing issue with an unknown black male continually trespassing upon the property." Police called English, who told them he believed the man hadn't taken anything, and was only trespassing.
Videos and descriptions of the man, who at the time wasn't known to residents, circulated on a neighborhood Facebook page and on the website Nextdoor, according to the police report.
Perez did not see Arbery again until Feb. 23, when he bled out in the middle of the road from the gunshot wounds. He’s listed as a witness on a police report from that day, which notes the McMichaels claimed they saw Arbery “the other night” with his “hand down his pants, which led them to believe the male was armed.” He wasn’t.
An attorney for English, the owner of the property, did not immediately respond to a VICE News request for comment. Elizabeth Graddy, who represents English, has said that his motion-sensor camera alerted him to potential entries at the under-construction property numerous times, leading him to once call a non-emergency police line. However, Graddy told NBC News, English never used the word “burglary,” as nothing had ever been stolen from the property.
According to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution, however, the property owner may have alerted another neighbor, Diego Perez, that someone was in his property Feb. 11. English lives about 90 miles away from the neighborhood, but had motion-sensor cameras installed that pinged his phone when there was someone on the property, according to Perez. Perez armed himself and walked up the road that night to check on the house, where he encountered Travis McMichael in his truck, he told the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
It wasn’t immediately clear how Travis was alerted to the Feb. 11 incident. A phone number wasn’t publicly listed for Perez, and he did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment. Attorneys for Arbery’s family also didn’t immediately respond to a VICE News request for comment, either.
“Travis saw him in the yard and Travis stopped,” Perez told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “He confronted (the man) halfway into the yard. He said (the man) reached for his waistband, and Travis got spooked and went down the road.”
Travis left and came back with his father, who apparently called the Glynn County Police Department that night, according to Perez. A police report from around 7 p.m. that night showed that a man called local police about a man roaming around a home under construction. The caller is identified in the report as Travis McMichael, and the police says that English had an "ongoing issue with an unknown black male continually trespassing upon the property." Police called English, who told them he believed the man hadn't taken anything, and was only trespassing.
Videos and descriptions of the man, who at the time wasn't known to residents, circulated on a neighborhood Facebook page and on the website Nextdoor, according to the police report.
Perez did not see Arbery again until Feb. 23, when he bled out in the middle of the road from the gunshot wounds. He’s listed as a witness on a police report from that day, which notes the McMichaels claimed they saw Arbery “the other night” with his “hand down his pants, which led them to believe the male was armed.” He wasn’t.
An attorney for English, the owner of the property, did not immediately respond to a VICE News request for comment. Elizabeth Graddy, who represents English, has said that his motion-sensor camera alerted him to potential entries at the under-construction property numerous times, leading him to once call a non-emergency police line. However, Graddy told NBC News, English never used the word “burglary,” as nothing had ever been stolen from the property.