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ThatOneDude

ThatOneDude

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Shinkicker said:
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It Took One Person, And One Errand, To Infect My Entire Family With COVID-19

COVID-19 in me. First it invaded my husband, then my two children. Now me. That seems to be the order of business in my house.
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nuraknu @nuraknu , thought you would appreciate this article. Or anyone worried about their family.
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Check this out.
www.wfaa.com

North Texas family shaken after 18 relatives test positive for COVID-19 following family gathering

Three were hospitalized, including two elderly family members and one woman battling breast cancer.
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FINGERS

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Splinty said:
You get Medicaid and it's free.
But then you're limited in doctor selection because Medicaid pays docs 1/3 of what commercial does.
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But you aren't getting a witch doctor delivering your baby? I get there are levels of competency in peoples skills but still. It's not Bangladesh.

I just find it so strange. We...well my wife had an elected caesarean in Jan. Must have been 12 people in the operating theatre. The same theatre that is used for emergencies that come from The Portland Hospital where the very, very cheapest pkg starts at around 12k per night.

Yet they still come to where we had ours for free if they get in trouble.

World leading hospital for delivering babies and it's free.

Well we pay tax and national insurance of course.
 
Shinkicker

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Fingers said:
World leading hospital for delivering babies and it's free
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Parkland, AKA southwestern, aka the mothership of all of OB is in Dallas, TX. The leading books in obstetrics are written there.

It's a county/academic combination. It's free including offering it's own coverage if you Don't qualify for others. It's world class care and training.

In fact that's kind of the story the more and more you get to any of the most prestigious institutions.

but again we're not really talking about hospitals we're talking about physician choice. Someone needs to do your prenatal care. that is ostensibly the most important portion of obstetrics and risk identification and management prior to delivery.
Counterintuitively you would have access to that large institution and its physicians if you had Medicaid for the poor. You would not have access to many of the other doctors in the area.


Fingers said:
But you aren't getting a witch doctor delivering your baby?
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No. The choice to accept Medicaid is by physician.
My partners and I accept Medicaid in our clinic and do so as a service to the community. But I do limit the number of Medicaid patients I see as I was considering quitting and moving when I was seeing too many. The insurance simply pays docs so little that you just see none in some cases or in our case you take as many as you can and keep following your bottom line until you're being gutted and then you have to limit the number of Medicaid patients which limits their access to doctors in the area as I was talking about.
 
ThatOneDude

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I was horribly cruel, according to the rest of the family, when I wouldn't allow my mom (40 year smoker and breast cancer twice, still on therapy) to visit for two weeks after I flew home from California.
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Yea, I am hoping that doesn't happen with us, my MIL wants to come out and visit after the 4th of July, but they are having a 4th of July party and we told them they can't come for at least 2 weeks after that.
 
ThatOneDude

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Splinty said:
Parkland, AKA southwestern, aka the mothership of all of OB is in Dallas, TX. The leading books in obstetrics are written there.
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And that's exactly why we decided to pay and go to a hospital an hour away from our home to have our baby. My wife and child getting the best medical care is worth all the money in the world to me.
 
Shinkicker

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Splinty said:
Parkland, AKA southwestern, aka the mothership of all of OB is in Dallas, TX. The leading books in obstetrics are written there.

It's a county/academic combination. It's free including offering it's own coverage if you Don't qualify for others. It's world class care and training.

In fact that's kind of the story the more and more you get to any of the most prestigious institutions.

but again we're not really talking about hospitals we're talking about physician choice. Someone needs to do your prenatal care. that is ostensibly the most important portion of obstetrics and risk identification and management prior to delivery.
Counterintuitively you would have access to that large institution and its physicians if you had Medicaid for the poor. You would not have access to many of the other doctors in the area.




No. The choice to accept Medicaid is by physician.
My partners and I accept Medicaid in our clinic and do so as a service to the community. But I do limit the number of Medicaid patients I see as I was considering quitting and moving when I was seeing too many. The insurance simply pays docs so little that you just see none in some cases or in our case you take as many as you can and keep following your bottom line until you're being gutted and then you have to limit the number of Medicaid patients which limits their access to doctors in the area as I was talking about.
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You do take some though. That makes my heart feel good.

Do you try to do your own deliveries? Or let the on call do it?
 
FINGERS

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Splinty said:
Parkland, AKA southwestern, aka the mothership of all of OB is in Dallas, TX. The leading books in obstetrics are written there.

It's a county/academic combination. It's free including offering it's own coverage if you Don't qualify for others. It's world class care and training.

In fact that's kind of the story the more and more you get to any of the most prestigious institutions.

but again we're not really talking about hospitals we're talking about physician choice. Someone needs to do your prenatal care. that is ostensibly the most important portion of obstetrics and risk identification and management prior to delivery.
Counterintuitively you would have access to that large institution and its physicians if you had Medicaid for the poor. You would not have access to many of the other doctors in the area.




No. The choice to accept Medicaid is by physician.
My partners and I accept Medicaid in our clinic and do so as a service to the community. But I do limit the number of Medicaid patients I see as I was considering quitting and moving when I was seeing too many. The insurance simply pays docs so little that you just see none in some cases or in our case you take as many as you can and keep following your bottom line until you're being gutted and then you have to limit the number of Medicaid patients which limits their access to doctors in the area as I was talking about.
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That's very impressive.

I would want my family to go there if it was free.

Your insurance companies seem to be the ones taking all the cream and getting fat off your hard work and charity....Charity...Seems an odd word to use for health...but then again we have many cancer charities here.....and they are not doing anything apart from taking money.

It still strikes me a completely insane health policy you guys have over there.
 
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Do you try to do your own deliveries? Or let the on call do it?
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I take an unlimited number of medicaid OB and keep their children in our clinic which means medicaid children. I limited my nonpregnant adults and children that I did not deliver.

My partners and I do all of our own deliveries if we are in town. I've only missed two this year so far.
 
nuraknu

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Shinkicker said:
www.yahoo.com

It Took One Person, And One Errand, To Infect My Entire Family With COVID-19

COVID-19 in me. First it invaded my husband, then my two children. Now me. That seems to be the order of business in my house.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

nuraknu @nuraknu , thought you would appreciate this article. Or anyone worried about their family.
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That's a crazy story. I keep telling my husband to keep his eyes covered, but it's the one thing he doesn't do all the time. Unless I misunderstood, it sounds like the man contracted it through his eyes and that's why nasal swabs came back negative.
 
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ThatOneDude said:
Elective surgeries are no longer allowed in certain counties in Texas.

www.wfaa.com

Gov. Abbott issues order that suspends elective surgeries in Harris, Bexar, Dallas, Travis counties

All hospitals in these counties are directed to postpone all surgeries & procedures that aren't immediately necessary to keep beds available for COVID-19 patients.
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There is no free lunch.
Limiting the spread of Corona virus is a good health and a good economic decision. Instead of these being mutually exclusive, they're intrinsically linked with the same incentives over time.
 
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Splinty said:
There is no free lunch.
Limiting the spread of Corona virus is a good health and a good economic decision. Instead of these being mutually exclusive, they're intrinsically linked with the same incentives over time.
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Another 5,000 cases in Florida today. Let's see if you cowboys can keep up.

Also lol @ only having 400k alligators.

Florida > Texas
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Splinty said:
There is no free lunch.
Limiting the spread of Corona virus is a good health and a good economic decision. Instead of these being mutually exclusive, they're intrinsically linked with the same incentives over time.
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I'm not sure you can be making such a tit for tat blanket statement. Limiting the spread is certainly a good health decision but, at least around these parts at present, it's a horrible economic decision.
 
Rambo John J

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Information on previous Coronavirus Vaccines


Immunization with inactivated Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus vaccine leads to lung immunopathology on challenge with live virus - PMC

To determine if a hypersensitive-type lung pathology might occur when mice were given an inactivated MERS-CoV vaccine and challenged with infectious virus as was seen with SARS-CoV vaccines, we prepared and vaccinated mice with an inactivated ...
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"This study was conducted to test whether an inactivated MERS-CoV vaccine would induce neutralizing antibody and protection against MERS-CoV infection and yet lead to a hypersensitivity-type lung immunopathologic reaction with eosinophil infiltrations when challenged with infectious virus, as had been seen with SARS-CoV-inactivated vaccines.3 The results suggest that a similar risk exists for inactivated MERS-CoV vaccines."

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Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus - PubMed

These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of...
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"These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire? Due diligence warranted for ADE in COVID-19 - PMC

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) is an atypical immunological paradox commonly associated with dengue virus re-infection. However, various research models have demonstrated this phenomenon with other viral families, including Coronaviridae. ...
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"If there is any reason to suspect ADE [antibody dependent enhancement] from a COVID-19 vaccine, it should be met with a critical eye rather than irrational exuberance for a fast-tracked vaccine rollout."
 
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