Society What are your thoughts on all the white people cops kill?

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[Deleted member 1]

I agree with this and have felt this way for awhile. It's amazing someone can be deemed un-patriotic for not wanting cops who think they are at war.

 

[SongExotic2]

 

[ThatOneDude]

Yup, fuck that shit right there.

 

[SongExotic2]

Did you see in Columbia they have the cartel policing lockdown in rural places? They dressed in hazmat shit like this shooting people who break curfew.


Edit

Here's a link about it. Crack on crackers.

Colombian cartels killing those who don't obey their Covid-19 lockdowns

Human Rights Watch calls on government to do more to protect civilians after at least eight murdered by armed groups

www.google.com

 

[ThatOneDude]

Did you see in Columbia they have the cartel policing lockdown in rural places? They dressed in hazmat shit like this shooting people who break curfew.


Edit

Here's a link about it. Crack on crackers.

Colombian cartels killing those who don't obey their Covid-19 lockdowns

Human Rights Watch calls on government to do more to protect civilians after at least eight murdered by armed groups

www.google.com

That's some wild shit.
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[SongExotic2]

That's some wild shit.
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[Tiiimmmaaayyy]

Most of the videos are taken down from YouTube. You can find them all on bitchute and they will disgust you and make you wanna fill a lake with bodies

View: https://youtu.be/GYjMK7lbHXo


View: https://youtu.be/6jfN1kXPiak


There are millions of these videos of our beloved citizens committing horrible acts of violence

That guy is a huge piece of shit. 100 arrests? How’s he still able to be out and fucking with 92 year old ladies?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I think many urban police departments are overly militarized and using veterans as a preferred applicant is short-sighted.

You want to bring in people with life experience, who also have seen and can deal with some grizzly shit.

Training cops to think of themselves as a pseudo military entity is pretty screwed up.

"Training" lol.

The militarization of police departments results in too much aggression and force against pretty much everybody they encounter at a population level.

There's a couple things here. Militarization makes sense, because throwing perfectly good stuff in the garbage in order to buy new stuff is fiscally irresponsible. Behavior is not inextricably connected with militarization. That's a narrative that's often repeated but holds no water.

 

[Deleted member 1]

Did you see in Columbia they have the cartel policing lockdown in rural places?

You want to bring in people with life experience, who also have seen and can deal with some grizzly shit.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

You want to bring in people with life experience, who also have seen and can deal with some grizzly shit.

Generally you're looking for someone who can pass a criminal background check.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Seriously, @Splinty how many wellness checks where a social worker finds a dead body do you think there's going to be before they're quitting left and right?

 

[Deleted member 1]

You want to bring in people with life experience, who also have seen and can deal with some grizzly shit.

Disagree. That's not the vast majority of police experiences and such a mindset is counterproductive to community policing.
Also most veterans don't actually have life experience for the civilian side. Most skills are not transferable to the civilian world and that is actually one of the biggest challenges in bringing veterans into civilian jobs. When evaluated by civilian employers veterans are considered rigid, lacking flexibility and creativity needed for civilian employment, and lacking needed corporate social skills. As a veteran who supports veterans, I don't mention any of this as just straight pejorative but challenges that are definitely there.

Ironically, despite my gripes about people like the above picture that I posted of men Larping in multicam, I trust a marine or soldier to hold their shot better than most cops. As @ThatOneDude has mentioned police ROE seem looser in many cases than him being a crayon eater in Baghdad.

"Training" lol.

Yes training. Operant conditioning with much of the same verbage used in infantry boot camp. This is not the right way for generic officers to be trained. I might make some leniency towards special teams like SWAT's which are clearly called out for direct high risk engagement.

Militarization makes sense, because throwing perfectly good stuff in the garbage in order to buy new stuff is fiscally irresponsible

Use the wrong tool because we have the stuff sitting around????

 

[Deleted member 1]

Seriously, @Splinty how many wellness checks where a social worker finds a dead body do you think there's going to be before they're quitting left and right?

Who's taking about LCSW now?
I've got a problem with domestic police running around wearing multicam and 10,000 person towns getting armored troop carriers to come enforce the law against me and others.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Disagree. That's not the vast majority of police experiences and such a mindset is counterproductive to community policing.
Also most veterans don't actually have life experience for the civilian side. Most skills are not transferable to the civilian world and that is actually one of the biggest challenges in bringing veterans into civilian jobs. When evaluated by civilian employers veterans are considered rigid, lacking flexibility and creativity needed for civilian employment, and lacking needed corporate social skills. As a veteran who supports veterans, I don't mention any of this as just straight pejorative but challenges that are definitely there.

I understand all of that. That's where training and honest evaluation is supposed to come into play. When you're looking at applicants it behooves you to select the ones with the most difficult to attain skills/experience and teach them the rest.

I trust a marine or soldier to hold their shot better than most cops.

Hence, the preference.

Operand conditioning with much of the same verbage used in infantry boot camp. This is not the right way for generic officers to be trained.

I'm not sure you understand the complete and utter lack of training that most police officers receive. Most of what they learn comes from other untrained peers.

Use the wrong tool because we have the stuff sitting around?

How is any of it "the wrong tool"? Tools are just that, tools. It's up to the user to select the correct tool. Personally, I don't care what color of uniform or what kind of car the local police drive. I care that they know how and when to use the equipment they have. In the vast majority of instances, they don't. They pull a guy off the street. Give him a rundown of traffic laws, hand him a gun and a badge and send him out into the street.

I've had reason to interact with police officers a lot more over the last few years and to say it's been enlightening is an understatement.

 

[Deleted member 1]

How is any of it "the wrong tool"?

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[Deleted member 1]

Bayonets aren't the wrong tool for police. Police just need to learn to use them the right way. Don't waste those bayonets. - @ConorMcGregorsBeard probably

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[Lukewarm Carl]

Most skills are not transferable to the civilian world and that is actually one of the biggest challenges in bringing veterans into civilian jobs. When evaluated by civilian employers veterans are considered rigid, lacking flexibility and creativity needed for civilian employment, and lacking needed corporate social skills.

Holy shit is that accurate.

I've interviewed well over a thousand people over the years and that's incredibly accurate. Most vets have next to no creativity and even less flexibility.

So in a proper role that basically relies on checklists they're fantastic. But finding the right vet to do something similar to what I do where I'm juggling 8 tasks at once and having to pivot over and over all day long is really really difficult.

 

[Deleted member 1]

Holy shit is that accurate.

I've interviewed well over a thousand people over the years and that's incredibly accurate. Most vets have next to no creativity and even less flexibility.

So in a proper role that basically relies on checklists they're fantastic. But finding the right vet to do something similar to what I do where I'm juggling 8 tasks at once and having to pivot over and over all day long is really really difficult.

Just a by product of different skill sets. If it's really important to stay in your lane and be in part of the machine then that doesn't translate over to being an independent thinker.

Interestingly, as we start encountering Al-Qaeda Post 9/11 we saw the enemies lack of hierarchical structure as having flexibility to maneuver around our hierarchical bureaucracy that is made for fighting nation states.

This combined with smaller near peer nations also fighting asynchronous wars with things like drones has led to some high-level military thinkers at the general officer level really pushing more autonomy in platoon missions. This is of course usually challenging because you now must get much higher quality individuals and leadership positions at those low levels. But then you're a more effective fighting force because you can pivot quicker.

Perhaps, if that becomes the culture, you may see more transferable skills. At least amongst your leaders.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Disagree. That's not the vast majority of police experiences and such a mindset is counterproductive to community policing.
Also most veterans don't actually have life experience for the civilian side. Most skills are not transferable to the civilian world and that is actually one of the biggest challenges in bringing veterans into civilian jobs. When evaluated by civilian employers veterans are considered rigid, lacking flexibility and creativity needed for civilian employment, and lacking needed corporate social skills. As a veteran who supports veterans, I don't mention any of this as just straight pejorative but challenges that are definitely there.

Ironically, despite my gripes about people like the above picture that I posted of men Larping in multicam, I trust a marine or soldier to hold their shot better than most cops. As @ThatOneDude has mentioned police ROE seem looser in many cases than him being a crayon eater in Baghdad.




Yes training. Operant conditioning with much of the same verbage used in infantry boot camp. This is not the right way for generic officers to be trained. I might make some leniency towards special teams like SWAT's which are clearly called out for direct high risk engagement.







Use the wrong tool because we have the stuff sitting around????

I was in Fallujah, not bitch ass Bagdad.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Holy shit is that accurate.

I've interviewed well over a thousand people over the years and that's incredibly accurate. Most vets have next to no creativity and even less flexibility.

So in a proper role that basically relies on checklists they're fantastic. But finding the right vet to do something similar to what I do where I'm juggling 8 tasks at once and having to pivot over and over all day long is really really difficult.

Because a majority of soldiers and Marines aren't allowed to think. They just need to follow simple instructions. The ones that rise into leadership positions better be creative or they suck.

 

[kneeblock]

Seriously, @Splinty how many wellness checks where a social worker finds a dead body do you think there's going to be before they're quitting left and right?

These happen all the time for many social workers.

 

[ThatOneDude]

These happen all the time for many social workers.

@MC Gusto can you confirm?

 

[Sheepdog]

Holy shit is that accurate.

I've interviewed well over a thousand people over the years and that's incredibly accurate. Most vets have next to no creativity and even less flexibility.

So in a proper role that basically relies on checklists they're fantastic. But finding the right vet to do something similar to what I do where I'm juggling 8 tasks at once and having to pivot over and over all day long is really really difficult.

I've got a wacky solution to this:

Don't set up a semi-fascist, oligarchical imperial empire held together by a Military Keynesian welfare state, and you won't have to find jobs for a bunch of morons who you indoctrinated into being useless at everything apart from being able to take orders to commit war crimes.

That's the benefit of being a vassal to this empire rather than the core. We make our token contributions of mindless robots to the effort, rather than have a full 10% of our adult population have to be one of these useless drones that eventually malfunction and cause all kinds of problems.

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

I've got a wacky solution to this:

Don't set up a semi-fascist, oligarchical imperial empire held together by a Military Keynesian welfare state, and you won't have to find jobs for a bunch of morons who you indoctrinated into being useless at everything apart from being able to take orders to commit war crimes.

That's the benefit of being a vassal to this empire rather than the core. We make our token contributions of mindless robots to the effort, rather than have a full 10% of our adult population have to be one of these useless drones that eventually malfunction and cause all kinds of problems.

Well that's not very fun.