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ConorMcGregorsBeard said:
Want to give this article a gander, @Splinty ? I don't like the source, so I'm curious your thoughts.

Americans are OVERESTIMATING their coronavirus risk, study claims
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I'll have to poke around the original source later. I'm on a 3-day labor day weekend at the lake watching Trump and anti-trump boats drive wakes at each other. Maybe the best politicking I've been a part of in years.

Prima facie? An article about the risk of catching Corona virus in a single contact doesn't really matter. Those who are minimizing all of this or panicking (like I said before my surprise that 30-year-olds would be as worried about Corona virus as 60-year-olds) I really missing the big point here. Most of us aren't that much of a risk at this. A lot of us are going to get sick. The bigger challenge is not getting all sick at once. so maybe there's some benefit and a study telling you to chill out wash your hands wear your mask and stay away from people outside of your immediate family and immediate social group. I'm for all of those things and all of those things are needed for the public health campaign which is what this is really about. It's really about case count and medical need versus medical system capacity. That is the significant portion of this. It is the reason that people acting like their own personal risk is The primary focus undermines the real goal.


So yeah I'd like to see this day to remind people not to go through their life panicking. But this doesn't justify people moving their own low risk to a priority that creates an aggregate risk increase beyond healthcare capacity. That's my only concern but otherwise I like it.
 
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Rambo John J said:
Great to see that.

It will probably be banned on certain platforms under the "misinformation" fine print.
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Hard to censor the WHO.
Splinty said:
I'll have to poke around the original source later. I'm on a 3-day labor day weekend at the lake watching Trump and anti-trump boats drive wakes at each other. Maybe the best politicking I've been a part of in years.

Prima facie? An article about the risk of catching Corona virus in a single contact doesn't really matter. Those who are minimizing all of this or panicking (like I said before my surprise that 30-year-olds would be as worried about Corona virus as 60-year-olds) I really missing the big point here. Most of us aren't that much of a risk at this. A lot of us are going to get sick. The bigger challenge is not getting all sick at once. so maybe there's some benefit and a study telling you to chill out wash your hands wear your mask and stay away from people outside of your immediate family and immediate social group. I'm for all of those things and all of those things are needed for the public health campaign which is what this is really about. It's really about case count and medical need versus medical system capacity. That is the significant portion of this. It is the reason that people acting like their own personal risk is The primary focus undermines the real goal.


So yeah I'd like to see this day to remind people not to go through their life panicking. But this doesn't justify people moving their own low risk to a priority that creates an aggregate risk increase beyond healthcare capacity. That's my only concern but otherwise I like it.
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Okay, how about instead of reading that you lifestream the Trump/Anti-Trump boat rally?
 
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ConorMcGregorsBeard said:
Hard to censor the WHO.


Okay, how about instead of reading that you lifestream the Trump/Anti-Trump boat rally?
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The Trump flotilla did not come as strong here as it did in Austin.

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But my man right there has been driving in circles for 8 hours while the rest have long ago started drinking beer on the docks
 
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Splinty said:
The Trump flotilla did not come as strong here as it did in Austin.

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But my man right there has been driving in circles for 8 hours while the rest have long ago started drinking beer on the docks
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what am I looking at there?

maybe he died and the boat is just doing circles on idle like a jetski?

Go be a hero dude...give him face to face breaths and stuff
 
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Rambo John J said:
what am I looking at there?

maybe he died and the boat is just doing circles on idle like a jetski?

Go be a hero dude...give him face to face breaths and stuff
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Pontoon boat with a Texas flag and American flag and a trump flag
 
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COVID-19 Can Wreck Your Heart, Even if You Haven’t Had Any Symptoms
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COVID-19 Can Wreck Your Heart, Even if You Haven't Had Any Symptoms

A growing body of research is raising concerns about the cardiac consequences of the coronavirus
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We’ve also known for a while that some COVID-19 patients’ hearts are taking a beating, too—but over the past few weeks, the evidence has strengthened that cardiac damage can happen even among people who have never displayed symptoms of coronavirus infection. And these frightening findings help explain why college and professional sports leagues are proceeding with special caution as they make decisions about whether or not to play.
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Abstract
Background
Cardiovascular complication in patients affected by novel Coronavirus respiratory disease (COVID-19) are increasingly recognized. However, although a cardiac tropism of SARS-CoV-2 for inflammatory cells in autopsy heart samples of COVID-19 patients has been reported, the presence of the virus in cardiomyocytes has not been documented yet.
Methods
We investigated for SARS-CoV-2 presence in heart tissue autopsies of 6 consecutive COVID-19 patients deceased for respiratory failure showing no signs of cardiac involvement and with no history of heart disease. Cardiac autopsy samples were analysed by digital PCR, Western blot, immunohistochemistry, immunofluorescence, RNAScope, and transmission electron microscopy assays.
Results
The presence of SARS-CoV-2 into cardiomyocytes was invariably detected. A variable pattern of cardiomyocytes injury was observed, spanning from the absence of cell death and subcellular alterations hallmarks to the intracellular oedema and sarcomere ruptures. In addition, we found active viral transcription in cardiomyocytes, by detecting both sense and antisense SARS-CoV-2 spike RNA.
Conclusions
In this analysis of autopsy cases, the presence of SARS-CoV-2 into cardiomyocytes, determining variable patterns of intracellular involvement, has been documented. All these findings suggest the need of a cardiologic surveillance even in survived COVID-19 patients not displaying a cardiac phenotype, in order to monitor potential long-term cardiac sequelae.
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