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RussfromNH

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Cold bluing is tricky, hot bluing is nasty.
I preferred parkerizing and 'koting'.

I agree about the hot bluing and won't go that route. It needs heated solutions and the fumes are nasty AF but the coating looks amazing if the stripping/cleaning/rinsing are done well

I've never tried parkerizing but It looks like parkerizing needs the solution to be heated as well and a good size vat of some kind to submerge whatever your treating into

I know nothing about "koting"

I learned cold bluing a looong time ago, it is tricky to get even coverage that looks good but no flame is needed, if you wanted you can apply this in your kitchen w/o issue

im a big pussy when it comes with chemicals and open flames
 

Filthy

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I agree about the hot bluing and won't go that route. It needs heated solutions and the fumes are nasty AF but the coating looks amazing if the stripping/cleaning/rinsing are done well

I've never tried parkerizing but It looks like parkerizing needs the solution to be heated as well and a good size vat of some kind to submerge whatever your treating into

I know nothing about "koting"

I learned cold bluing a looong time ago, it is tricky to get even coverage that looks good but no flame is needed, if you wanted you can apply this in your kitchen w/o issue

im a big pussy when it comes with chemicals and open flames
koting is just spraying with an HVLP and putting it in a homemade curing oven.

the nice thing about it is for handguns (even some carbines/shotties)you can do it on a stove top with stainless 'hot water' pans... i forget what they're called, but they use them in catering to keep food hot on the serving line. Super cheap.

and you can use an old toaster oven for curing. You can refinish handguns in whatever color/camo you want for very little money.
the chemicals are the most expensive part, but they keep forever and they're not any more dangerous than pool chemicals.
 

Filthy

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this guy does it right, except for brushing on the oil. Dunk it hot and dry.
the only difference is that you spray your parts with the Kote instead of dunking in oil.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq5RCaeWTpY&feature=emb_logo


then in to a toaster oven or 'hot light' box to cure.

almost forgot - shoot the inside of your box or oven with an IR gun to make sure you don't have any hot spots - it can cause a little color distortion.
 

Filthy

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In case you guys weren’t aware how awesome they are. Straight bolt,Yo.
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in 2005 I got in to sporterizing Mausers. Bought a K31 when they first started importing them because I thought it was kind of cool...just a completely purpose-built platform for a cartridge and a human. A nice beech, but what was a nice beech back then is "amazing" now.

took it up the mountain in Tillamook forest where we had 250/500/800 ranges marked, and set up 10" steel plate at 500 yds. I put 5 rounds in the magazine and set the rear sight. First two were low, in the same spot. I went one more notch up on the elevation.

Ding.
Ding.
Ding.

if you want to talk to someone who loves K31s, I'm your bro.
i even have a sporter project I'll get around to one day. It would be done, but Richards screwed up my stock and put rosewood tip and cap instead of ebony. Now there's an extra step of "dupli-carve stock".

:)
 

Big Dummy

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in 2005 I got in to sporterizing Mausers. Bought a K31 when they first started importing them because I thought it was kind of cool...just a completely purpose-built platform for a cartridge and a human. A nice beech, but what was a nice beech back then is "amazing" now.

took it up the mountain in Tillamook forest where we had 250/500/800 ranges marked, and set up 10" steel plate at 500 yds. I put 5 rounds in the magazine and set the rear sight. First two were low, in the same spot. I went one more notch up on the elevation.

Ding.
Ding.
Ding.

if you want to talk to someone who loves K31s, I'm your bro.
i even have a sporter project I'll get around to one day. It would be done, but Richards screwed up my stock and put rosewood tip and cap instead of ebony. Now there's an extra step of "dupli-carve stock".

:)
From what I’ve read they are incredibly made rifles and are extremely accurate. Also, the fact that the Swiss didn’t use corrosive primers is a major plus. I kinda wanted an earlier model with a walnut stock but Theo not one they had at the price I wanted had extremely faded bluing. In the end I went with a beech stock that’s a little beat up but the bore and rifling are in excellent shape. I got it from Simpsons and I’ve heard really good things about them and the quality of rifles they sell. Good call, I probably should’ve ordered a bayonet too. Finding ammo is gonna be a bitch but I got a couple of ideas in mind. Gunbroker is a joke.
 

RussfromNH

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this guy does it right, except for brushing on the oil. Dunk it hot and dry.
the only difference is that you spray your parts with the Kote instead of dunking in oil.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq5RCaeWTpY&feature=emb_logo


then in to a toaster oven or 'hot light' box to cure.

almost forgot - shoot the inside of your box or oven with an IR gun to make sure you don't have any hot spots - it can cause a little color distortion.
The process doesn't seem to difficult or harsh. its tough to see the finish or the color distortion as you mention clearly in the video but it looked amazing for his first go at it.

I'm going to dig into this a bit deeper, I have an old marlin .22 semi auto rifle in need of some tlc. Thanks
 

ThatOneDude

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From what I’ve read they are incredibly made rifles and are extremely accurate. Also, the fact that the Swiss didn’t use corrosive primers is a major plus. I kinda wanted an earlier model with a walnut stock but Theo not one they had at the price I wanted had extremely faded bluing. In the end I went with a beech stock that’s a little beat up but the bore and rifling are in excellent shape. I got it from Simpsons and I’ve heard really good things about them and the quality of rifles they sell. Good call, I probably should’ve ordered a bayonet too. Finding ammo is gonna be a bitch but I got a couple of ideas in mind. Gunbroker is a joke.
Don't even bother looking for ammo imo. Just keep buying things for reloading when you see them. You'll be better off in the long run.
 

Big Dummy

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Don't even bother looking for ammo imo. Just keep buying things for reloading when you see them. You'll be better off in the long run.
That’s what I’ve been doing. My dad has a lot of stuff for large rifles, powder, primers and stuff. I’ve been looking for brass and bullets. Looks like you can make brass from a .286(?) or something like that. I might buy some overpriced stuff just because. I’m definitely gonna be looking a lot harder for the reloading stuff now that i finally bought the k31.
 

Filthy

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That’s what I’ve been doing. My dad has a lot of stuff for large rifles, powder, primers and stuff. I’ve been looking for brass and bullets. Looks like you can make brass from a .286(?) or something like that. I might buy some overpriced stuff just because. I’m definitely gonna be looking a lot harder for the reloading stuff now that i finally bought the k31.
just get the Privi ammo for the boxer brass.
 

Filthy

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The process doesn't seem to difficult or harsh. its tough to see the finish or the color distortion as you mention clearly in the video but it looked amazing for his first go at it.

I'm going to dig into this a bit deeper, I have an old marlin .22 semi auto rifle in need of some tlc. Thanks
the color distortion only comes from having a hot spot in the oven when doing a Kote.

brushing the oil isn't ideal, but each his own - the parkerization is what protects the metal.
the curing oven is optional for 'paint' Kotes like Duracoat, but the finish of Cerakote is far superior and worth the minimal hassle of making a box that will hold 250F for 3 hours.
 

Filthy

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From what I’ve read they are incredibly made rifles and are extremely accurate. Also, the fact that the Swiss didn’t use corrosive primers is a major plus. I kinda wanted an earlier model with a walnut stock but Theo not one they had at the price I wanted had extremely faded bluing. In the end I went with a beech stock that’s a little beat up but the bore and rifling are in excellent shape. I got it from Simpsons and I’ve heard really good things about them and the quality of rifles they sell. Good call, I probably should’ve ordered a bayonet too. Finding ammo is gonna be a bitch but I got a couple of ideas in mind. Gunbroker is a joke.
the perfect engineering...you can take the rifle down to its individual components with nothing but a spent shell.
if you get a machinist marker, you can polish the trigger yourself. I tuned one up for my step-dad to wreck coyotes, it has perfect 3 lb trigger that breaks like a glass rod.
 

Filthy

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i have a walnut with a butt-tag and 4 notches in the stock.

maybe you'll talk me in to getting one out tomorrow and taking a picture...
:)