British brothers and sisters, y'all wearing poppies or nah?

[Zeph]

Ah ok, I get it. When you have a credible source or reasoning I'd be interested to read it 🙂

That also goes for people claiming it WAS a false flag.

Watch the documentary in the other thread. It opened my eyes to the inconsistencies with the official narrative and the possibility of it being a false flag operation. I don't know if it was, but from what I've seen there are specific parts of the official narrative that doesn't add up. Not all the points made in that documentary make sense, it is a very comprehensive collection of all the truthers allegations, but some raise some serious questions.

 

[ThatOneDude]

What about Larry silverstein? What a lucky man that guy is. He buys this asbestos filled, hazardous, outdated buildings and receives 4.5 billion in insurance.

Several months before the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11/ the lease of the buildings was made private and bought by Larry Silverstein. He took out an insurance policy that also covered terrorism.

Interestingly he never went to work on 9/11.

In and interview he said that he has breakfast and coffee every morning at “Windows On The World” in the World Trade Center but on September 11, 2001 he happened to have a dermatologist appointment in the morning. His kids also didn't turn up for work that day.

Also this was the same guy that was caught saying "pull it" before building 7 came down. This doesn't seem shadey to anyone here?

So if we understand what you are saying, rich guy buying an asbestos filled building (there's lot of them), and had an insurance policy on a major land mark that had a terrorist attack prior...... Means 9/11 was an inside job?

 

[Zeph]

What about Larry silverstein? What a lucky man that guy is. He buys this asbestos filled, hazardous, outdated buildings and receives 4.5 billion in insurance.

Several months before the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11/ the lease of the buildings was made private and bought by Larry Silverstein. He took out an insurance policy that also covered terrorism.

Interestingly he never went to work on 9/11.

In and interview he said that he has breakfast and coffee every morning at “Windows On The World” in the World Trade Center but on September 11, 2001 he happened to have a dermatologist appointment in the morning. His kids also didn't turn up for work that day.

Also this was the same guy that was caught saying "pull it" before building 7 came down. This doesn't seem shadey to anyone here?

It is strangely convenient that he also owned the only other building to come down, which was also aging and he also got a massive insurance pay out for that too.

 

[Zeph]

So if we understand what you are saying, rich guy buying an asbestos filled building (there's lot of them), and had an insurance policy on a major land mark that had a terrorist attack prior...... Means 9/11 was an inside job?

No, but combined with the bangs, squibs, the security system being turned off for 2 days prior, people hearing excavation work being done before 9/11, multiple accounts of explosions happening throughout the building, including one in the basement. There is just a lot that doesn't add up, and then there is this guy.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

That's what I'm waiting on. Or some contractor to come forward and say "Listen I haven't slept in 10 years because I was involved in this and here's how it happened."

you still wouldnt believe it if the person did come out. because it doesnt close and cover every hole or gap in the "official story" and the reason a person isnt coming out is because they either made huge amounts of money, still are making huge amounts of money, or are worried they will get JFK'd if they talk.

And that's the issue with truthers, they speak in such definitive terms while getting angry at people who don't agree with them. It totally ruins their credibility , and then people laugh at them, and they get even madder, further ruining their credibility.

you are putting your credibility in the GOVERNMENT!! which is laughable and pathetic at best

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

So if we understand what you are saying, rich guy buying an asbestos filled building (there's lot of them), and had an insurance policy on a major land mark that had a terrorist attack prior...... Means 9/11 was an inside job?

now who is simplifying things to their benefit? didnt you accuse me of doing this like an hour ago on this thread???

 

[Leigh]

you still wouldnt believe it if the person did come out. because it doesnt close and cover every hole or gap in the "official story" and the reason a person isnt coming out is because they either made huge amounts of money, still are making huge amounts of money, or are worried they will get JFK'd if they talk.



you are putting your credibility in the GOVERNMENT!! which is laughable and pathetic at best

Not necessarily. Let's assume for a second that the US government is not responsible for 911.

2 planes are flown into the WTC by terrorists. The US government has no idea what's going on. What is their response going to be? The same as the one they've given.

Now, let's assume they ARE responsible. What story are they going to give? The same as above.

So it's not about trusting the government - they'll act innocent whether they are or not. We know that. It's about looking at the evidence and there is nothing conclusive either way. However, proving innocence may not be possible. What evidence could there be?

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

Not necessarily. Let's assume for a second that the US government is not responsible for 911.

2 planes are flown into the WTC by terrorists. The US government has no idea what's going on. What is their response going to be? The same as the one they've given.

Now, let's assume they ARE responsible. What story are they going to give? The same as above.

So it's not about trusting the government - they'll act innocent whether they are or not. We know that. It's about looking at the evidence and there is nothing conclusive either way. However, proving innocence may not be possible. What evidence could there be?

IMO, there comes a point that overwhelming circumstantial evidence cant be ignored. and 9/11 has so much circumstantial evidence that it makes my head spin.

lets say you had no exposure to 9/11. and were given the green light to investigate it. I highly doubt the conclusion would be that the govt's official reason / story would be the one the person comes to.

 

[ThatOneDude]

you still wouldnt believe it if the person did come out. because it doesnt close and cover every hole or gap in the "official story" and the reason a person isnt coming out is because they either made huge amounts of money, still are making huge amounts of money, or are worried they will get JFK'd if they talk.



you are putting your credibility in the GOVERNMENT!! which is laughable and pathetic at best

Ok, so the government isnt credible, the government cant run itself blah blah blah, but they can pull this off.
Im not saying the government is some infallible entity, I'm not saying they havent done shady shit in the past and still do. I'm saying I havent seen anything from the truthers that makes me say, 'oh shit they are right'.

 

[Leigh]

IMO, there comes a point that overwhelming circumstantial evidence cant be ignored. and 9/11 has so much circumstantial evidence that it makes my head spin.

lets say you had no exposure to 9/11. and were given the green light to investigate it. I highly doubt the conclusion would be that the govt's official reason / story would be the one the person comes to.

OK, I'm pretty ignorant to the topic. Can you list the overwhelming circumstantial evidence?

I'll watch the documentary tonight

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

I'm saying I havent seen anything from the truthers that makes me say, 'oh shit they are right'.

its been 14 years. if that is the conclusion you have come to then I highly doubt your mind would be changed either way man.

and if you call me a truther again this thread will probably get deleted. watch your fucking mouth boy.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

OK, I'm pretty ignorant to the topic. Can you list the overwhelming circumstantial evidence?

I'll watch the documentary tonight

everything from the steel melting, dynamite, explosions in the basement, tower 7, news agencies reporting it was collapsed before it even did, all the people that were at ground zero telling us a different story than the official story, the things that lead to 9/11, and then there are the multitudes of shit that happened AFTER the towers were taken down.....and many many many more things.

and i am sure some of you govt lovers would like to debunk the things I have posted. just know that I posted them because Leigh asked, not to debate each one with you mouth breathers.

 

[SAJ]

OK, I'm pretty ignorant to the topic. Can you list the overwhelming circumstantial evidence?

I'll watch the documentary tonight

I watched the new pearl harbor which took me about a week cause it's 5 hours long. I suggest watching that documentary over a period of time

 

[Leigh]

everything from the steel melting, dynamite, explosions in the basement, tower 7, news agencies reporting it was collapsed before it even did, all the people that were at ground zero telling us a different story than the official story, the things that lead to 9/11, and then there are the multitudes of shit that happened AFTER the towers were taken down.....and many many many more things.

and i am sure some of you govt lovers would like to debunk the things I have posted. just know that I posted them because Leigh asked, not to debate each one with you mouth breathers.

Surely if those points can be debunked, then they don't count?

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

Surely if those points can be debunked, then they don't count?

but my point is they cant be debunked. they can try, just like I can try to tell them otherwise. I can post facts about all of that. but it will either fall on def ears or just get blown off because it doesnt match what they think happened. thats what has happened for the last 14 years.

"Do not waste time trying to convince people who have their mind made up."

 

[Hired Gun]

Why does everything have to be some kind of conspiracy? Shit happens

 

[Leigh]

but my point is they cant be debunked. they can try, just like I can try to tell them otherwise. I can post facts about all of that. but it will either fall on def ears or just get blown off because it doesnt match what they think happened. thats what has happened for the last 14 years.

"Do not waste time trying to convince people who have their mind made up."

I'm open minded. I'd like to discuss those points

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

I'm open minded. I'd like to discuss those points

I am willing to do so. just not with people who already "know" that the arabs did it. I dont have the time or energy to waste on someone who is just listening to what I have to say just to laugh at it.

 

[ThatOneDude]

its been 14 years. if that is the conclusion you have come to then I highly doubt your mind would be changed either way man.

and if you call me a truther again this thread will probably get deleted. watch your fucking mouth boy.

Honestly, why is being called a truther such an issue, I don't get it.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

Why does everything have to be some kind of conspiracy? Shit happens

very true. 9/11 just happens to be one of the only "conspiracies" I subscribe to.

 

[SAJ]

I'm open minded

Which is why I recommend to watch the pearl harbor. Unlike others here you will be able to change your own perspective on what really happened

 

[Zeph]

Why does everything have to be some kind of conspiracy? Shit happens

Everything doesn't have to be.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

Honestly, why is being called a truther such an issue, I don't get it.

because you're attaching a negative to it and using it to undermine and insult someone. how do you not see that??? are you that fucking dumb?

see, I actually come out and say what I mean. not just throw shade and tuck after I get called out on it.

 

[ThatOneDude]

everything from the steel melting, dynamite, explosions in the basement, tower 7, news agencies reporting it was collapsed before it even did, all the people that were at ground zero telling us a different story than the official story, the things that lead to 9/11, and then there are the multitudes of shit that happened AFTER the towers were taken down.....and many many many more things.

and i am sure some of you govt lovers would like to debunk the things I have posted. just know that I posted them because Leigh asked, not to debate each one with you mouth breathers.

Have you ever had to interview people involved in chaotic or extremely violent situations? The stories often change and people remember things differently. It's not that uncommon.

And why back to mouth breathers, why the name calling of people who don't share your viewpoint.

 

[ThatOneDude]

I'm open minded. I'd like to discuss those points

@Leigh what is your professional, not fighting background?