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Hauler

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CBS just did a quick piece on the rising prices of just about everything. Didn't even touch on what is causing it - which anyone with a fucking brain knows it's the extra unemployment dollars that's crippling industry.

No workers = Less Production = Shrinking Supply on just about everything.

Demand is still there, so...prices go up.

Economics 101.

But hey - just keep paying people to stay on their couch. It's working wonderfully. The only people dumber than the media are the tards in DC.
 

Rambo John J

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Personally I would be thinking about putting my USD into tangible assets sometime soon. Land/Real Estate, Equipment(heavy), Precious Metals, etc...

Not a big stock holder though so it is easier for me to say that than some.

House of Cards will fall, only question is when.
 

jason73

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guys.... guys... no need to panic . justin trudeau and joe biden will have this straightened out shortly
 

Jesus X

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popeyes is selling their large side for 5 bucks now it used to be 3.79 maybe last year. even lil caesars raised the pizza price .55 cents.
 

kneeblock

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CBS just did a quick piece on the rising prices of just about everything. Didn't even touch on what is causing it - which anyone with a fucking brain knows it's the extra unemployment dollars that's crippling industry.

No workers = Less Production = Shrinking Supply on just about everything.

Demand is still there, so...prices go up.

Economics 101.

But hey - just keep paying people to stay on their couch. It's working wonderfully. The only people dumber than the media are the tards in DC.
I've been hearing this talking point quite a bit lately, but I'm struggling a bit to find its origins. There seems to be a concerted effort in conservative media to suggest that unemployment benefits are the reason for everything, but the current unemployment rate is 6%, down considerably from its peak last year this time of almost 15%.

Why is there a belief that these 6% are somehow crippling the supply chain and industry more broadly?
 

Hauler

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I've been hearing this talking point quite a bit lately, but I'm struggling a bit to find its origins. There seems to be a concerted effort in conservative media to suggest that unemployment benefits are the reason for everything, but the current unemployment rate is 6%, down considerably from its peak last year this time of almost 15%.

Why is there a belief that these 6% are somehow crippling the supply chain and industry more broadly?
I don't know that I've heard it at all in the media. Haven't been paying much attention to the talking heads. This is my own personal opinion.

I'm in manufacturing and construction. With that, I do a lot of buying of supplies so I'm in contact with people from all sorts of industries (lumber, windows, doors, adhesives, metal plates, rebar, concrete, heavy equipment, etc)

I don't know what the unemployment rate truly is vs what is being reported, but I can tell you this with 100% certainty - there isn't a single company that I deal with that isn't struggling to find workers. And I'm not talking about "We need to hire another person". I'm talking about truss shops trying to find 40 people and getting ZERO applications. Most of my business calls - which are usually just about product procurement - quickly turn to a discussion of employee staffing. It is a huge, wide-spread problem both here in the States and up in Canada.

Construction companies are busier than they've ever been but supply is a major problem because there aren't enough workers to feed the machines. I talked to a supplier in Minnesota yesterday, and he's about 150 trucks of OSB behind on orders and if he doesn't get product soon he will be completely out next week. That will result in hundreds of jobsites that will come to a screeching halt.

I don't really care about the politics behind minimum wage and extra unemployment dollars or Covid stimulus money - but I've been talking about the labor shortage for a long time now - and it's only gotten worse as we've "progressed" through the pandemnic.

Prices across the board are WAY up because supply is crunched and demand is through the roof because the end user still has money to spend - sooner or later something's gotta give. This isn't sustainable. It's already a bad situation - but it's going to get way, way worse before too long.
 
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Qat

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I don't know that I've heard it at all in the media. Haven't been paying much attention to the talking heads. This is my own personal opinion.

I'm in manufacturing and construction. With that, I do a lot of buying of supplies so I'm in contact with people from all sorts of industries (lumber, windows, doors, adhesives, metal plates, rebar, concrete, heavy equipment, etc)

I don't know what the unemployment rate truly is vs what is being reported, but I can tell you this with 100% certainty - there isn't a single company that I deal with that isn't struggling to find workers. And I'm not talking about "We need to hire another person". I'm talking about truss shops trying to find 40 people and getting ZERO applications. Most of my business calls - which are usually just about product procurement - quickly turn to a discussion of employee staffing. It is a huge, wide-spread problem both here in the States and up in Canada.

But on the business side, we are all busier than ever because the housing market is crazy right now. Most construction companies are busier than they've ever been, but the supply is a major problem because there aren't enough workers to feed the machines. I talked to a supplier in Minnesota yesterday, and he's about 150 trucks of OSB behind on orders and if he doesn't get product soon he will be completely out next week. That will result in hundreds of jobsites that will come to a screeching halt.

I don't really care about the politics behind minimum wage and extra unemployment dollars or Covid stimulus money - but I've been talking about the labor shortage for a long time now - and it's only gotten worse as we've "progressed" through the pandemnic.

Prices across the board are WAY up because supply is crunched and demand is through the roof because the end user still has money to spend - sooner or later something's gotta give. This isn't sustainable. It's already a bad situation - but it's going to get way, way worse before too long.
Sounds like y'all need some immigration!

Get Lars to help you out. He is a shark.
 

Hauler

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Sounds like y'all need some immigration!

Get Lars to help you out. He is a shark.
I'm all for it. Most immigrants are friendly folks and great workers.

A business associate of mine has 50 H2B workers arriving in a couple weeks.
 

Hauler

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Local news this morning while I was making my sandwich for lunch.
 
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I don't know that I've heard it at all in the media. Haven't been paying much attention to the talking heads. This is my own personal opinion.

I'm in manufacturing and construction. With that, I do a lot of buying of supplies so I'm in contact with people from all sorts of industries (lumber, windows, doors, adhesives, metal plates, rebar, concrete, heavy equipment, etc)

I don't know what the unemployment rate truly is vs what is being reported, but I can tell you this with 100% certainty - there isn't a single company that I deal with that isn't struggling to find workers. And I'm not talking about "We need to hire another person". I'm talking about truss shops trying to find 40 people and getting ZERO applications. Most of my business calls - which are usually just about product procurement - quickly turn to a discussion of employee staffing. It is a huge, wide-spread problem both here in the States and up in Canada.

Construction companies are busier than they've ever been but supply is a major problem because there aren't enough workers to feed the machines. I talked to a supplier in Minnesota yesterday, and he's about 150 trucks of OSB behind on orders and if he doesn't get product soon he will be completely out next week. That will result in hundreds of jobsites that will come to a screeching halt.

I don't really care about the politics behind minimum wage and extra unemployment dollars or Covid stimulus money - but I've been talking about the labor shortage for a long time now - and it's only gotten worse as we've "progressed" through the pandemnic.

Prices across the board are WAY up because supply is crunched and demand is through the roof because the end user still has money to spend - sooner or later something's gotta give. This isn't sustainable. It's already a bad situation - but it's going to get way, way worse before too long.

If everybody is hiring all at once in the same time then the competition from companies hiring against each other would create a workers market in job selection. I'd expect you to not be able to fill and at the same time demand is beyond usual, resulting in prepandemic hiring practices being inadequate . And I'm not sure unemployment payments are a stronger influence than many of the market forces inside your industry. We aren't seeing major hiring difficulties in several other industries that are paying parity with the numbers you've posted before. Demand and competition for workers against each other seems to be driving the gridlock in various sectors.
 

Hauler

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resulting in prepandemic hiring practices being inadequate .
  • Hiring bonuses.
  • Referral bonuses
  • 3, 6, 9 and 12 month bonuses for staying
  • Starting pay has increased roughly 20%
  • Pay for existing workers has trickled up to make sure we retain the folks we do have.
We've adjusted hiring practices. Largely ineffective.
 

ThatOneDude

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  • Hiring bonuses.
  • Referral bonuses
  • 3, 6, 9 and 12 month bonuses for staying
  • Starting pay has increased roughly 20%
  • Pay for existing workers has trickled up to make sure we retain the folks we do have.
We've adjusted hiring practices. Largely ineffective.
I'm in. What's my starting pay?
 

Hauler

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We aren't seeing major hiring difficulties in several other industries that are paying parity with the numbers you've posted before.
There's an Arby's I drive by every day that is only open via drive-thru. The sign on the door says "walk-ins closed due to not enough staff"

They've had a "now hiring" message on their sign since October.

You can say it's not an issue all you want.
From where I stand and what I see and experience on a daily basis, you couldn't be more wrong.