Indeed, the defense will be "this poor, deluded idiot was too stupid to understand the gravity of the actions he felt he'd been encouraged to undertake."
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Josh Hawley’s Toxic Populism
When rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol in January, Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.) was there. Not only was he happy to see the mob assembled outside his
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how hard would it be to put it on Trump et al at the rally?
"I thought I was following the direction of the Chief Executive"
The fact that courts weigh what people who committed a crime *felt* at the time of the offense often factors into outcomes, and I'm more curious what the defense to it will be.
I suppose it will come down to how the importance of personal responsibility is addressed by the verdict.
it's not what they felt, it's what a reasonable person would think/do in the same situation.
"how can it be illegal to do what the guy who was chief of Law Enforcement tells you to do?"
i think it'll be more of a mitigating factor in sentencing. It's a bad look for the Dems if they let Trump walk and persecute his minions.
Nepotism is very clearly an issue for the Biden White House as the administration is staunchly adversarial to Russia and his son has business dealings with the Ukraine. Business dealings that were facilitated by Joe Biden. I'm very aware of Jared Kushner, and have my own issues with him and what he was or wasn't allowed to do. Pretending that because I have issues with Joe Biden I don't have issues with Donald Trump is extremely dishonest of you.
and you'd be wrong.
I say "Lol" because the post itself was laughable and not worth addressing. For whatever reason you insist on making up positions for people whether or not they're actually positions to people hold, and then have the nerve to claim it's others who aren't honest. Most people hold different views on different things, and don't have cookie cutter, one size fits all opinions. If someone's opinions all fit into a single ideological box, it's because that person is a fucking moron.
If you look at the actual wording he used, it would be next to impossible.
The message wasn't delivered as a transcript of a speech. The full context of the situation is relevant
Cool story.
Search function says that you've typed the word "Kushner" twice on this forum. Ever.
"What authority would Kushner have over the Saudi government?"
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"Do you really think that if Kushner had said not to do it they'd have listened to him? You cant actually be that delusional."
That's it.
The only two times you have ever typed his name here, was to make bullshit excuses for his presence in the West Wing and his WhatsApp secret diplomacy that the fucking Secretary of State was shut out of.
But yeah........ Hunter Biden, right? Idiot hypocrite.
My own opinions don't fit into a single ideological box. I was strongly against Biden even entering the race, for a start.
But you are insisting that Biden is just as bad as Trump and Co. That is simply not objective reality. At this point, it is not a matter of "both sides are shit". At this point, one side is openly not interested in participating in a democracy. Simple as that. That's the reality. I would have thought that the events of Jan 6 and the aftermath would have made that so obvious that it is impossible to deny, but apparently not.
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i think that Biden can be just as bad, in a different direction. And try comparing Trump's first 6 months to Biden's, instead of comparing Trump's first 6 months out of office to Biden's first 6 months in. Objectively, Joe Biden is making policy decisions that benefit himself and his elitist handlers to the detriment of most Americans.
and there's a schism in the Republican party, the media (MSM and Tech) is playing up the minority because it drives views. The Rs that I talk to outside of the Internet are just waiting for the "America First" team to get side-tracked by some other shiny diversion.
This is not based in reality.
Biden respects and abides by the democratic process and the rule of law.
That ALONE makes him a better and less dangerous President than Trump.
That's how low these cunts have set the bar.
There is no schism in the GOP. That's the problem.
Liz Cheney was the #3 Republican in the House, and the daughter of the Republican Vice President on 9/11.
She voted with Trump 93% of the time.
Then she said that Biden won the election, Trump lost, there was no massive fraud and Republicans need to accept that and take the L.
Saying that got her fired.
That's what the Republican Party is now. A personality cult.
Here's Mitt Romney at the Utah Republican Convention, getting booed. For what? For saying that Biden is the lawfully elected President.
View: https://youtu.be/qtgT9S6BbOQ
That's not the minority. More than two-thirds of Republican voters think that Biden is not the lawfully elected rightful President. They didn't arrive at that level of retardation by accident. They were programmed by a nonstop, years-long, full court press of lies and conspiracy garbage.
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I disagree. This is a shitty legal defence.
Not criminally responsible due to mental retardation rarely works as a defence and when it does the individual often gets locked up until they are deemed competent.
The law has nothing to do with feelings.
It will have more to do with how it's being dealt with in the National conversation:
"At the least, Trump encouraged this unruly behavior, and at worst directed it."
"No, he didn't. All he said was..."
It's gonna be semantics. Does the POTUS bear any responsibility for his words and actions? Thus far it's stupid to bet he'll face any repercussion but the condemnation of history.
What else is there?
The reasons why they were there, are not reality based.
If you were hired by one of them, what kind of defence would you present?
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They were there because they are moron traitors who were all excited to participate in the worst act of sedition in American history literally since the civil war.
But if you're a defense attorney, you can't get up there and say "my client is a treasonous retard who has become a violent domestic terrorist, please sentence him as such."
What approach would you take to defend them? The attorney's aren't going to get up in court and argue that stop the steal and Qanon are reality-based.
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The approach I mentioned, point the blame elsewhere.
"My client was heavily influenced by the exhortations of GOP leadership and believed, in sincerity, the election was stolen as Republican leadership contended repeatedly.
In his actions on January 6, he felt he was acting in the country's best interest according to constant reiteration of the unsubstantiated belief perpetrated by the President and associated GOP leadership that the election was rigged."
I'm sure the words fomented and insurrection will be discussed.
Not interested, thank you.
Hey yeah, for how much you are disgusted by Hunter Biden and his not working for the US government or having any influence on US foreign policy....... it sure looks like you are in fact NOT a massive hypocrite, what what with your total of 2 mentions of Jared Kushner's existence. Neither of which were condemnations of his presence in the West Wing or his secret, outside official channels, not archived WhatsApp chats with MBS, but rather both were excuses for the nepotism.
Not a hypocrite, though.
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might want to turn down the spigot or point the douche-nozzle elsewhere.
that's a lot of name calling over a difference of opinion or priorities. We're all hypocrites
it's probably going to hose them that their Dear Leaders letting Big Orange off the hook is a dagger for the prosecution.
the judge may not even allow the defense of "something perfectly legal convinced me to do something really really illegal"
The MMA Community Liberal Lefty's and Sock Puppets are shilling hard in this thread ....they must now understand they have been caught red handed in the biggest military sting operation in human history this realization that the election fraud is about to be exposed for the world to see really has these snowflakes sweating from their va-jay-jay's.
