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BeardOfKnowledge

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they have a majority in the Senate and the governor, so the Dems weren't going to stop it.

it's been a shitshow, anyone who believes any results of this "audit" already believed the baseless allegations that led to the "audit"

It's an auto-erotic asphyxiation circle jerk, it's just a question of whether it's the Dems or Reps holding the rope around the Reps' necks.

either way, the Reps aren't stopping until they're dead.
I'm not casting a value judgment on the legitimacy, or whether or not they should be doing it. I'm asking if it's a legal thing for them to be doing.
 

ThatOneDude

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I'm not casting a value judgment on the legitimacy, or whether or not they should be doing it. I'm asking if it's a legal thing for them to be doing.
I believe you can be fined for filing frivolous lawsuits, but I don't think it's illegal.
 

Filthy

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I'm not casting a value judgment on the legitimacy, or whether or not they should be doing it. I'm asking if it's a legal thing for them to be doing.
some of the things the auditors were doing was potentially illegal, like trying to access authorized signatures. Some of it is just "audit security 101", like not allowing blue/black pens in the audit area and requiring positive control of all ballots and systems.

so there's nothing "illegal" about handing over the ballots to a private organization, but it's untoward and irrelevant.

EDIT - the only reason they're allowed to proceed with such a shitty "audit" is because it can't change anything about the election.
It's performance art.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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EDIT - the only reason they're allowed to proceed with such a shitty "audit" is because it can't change anything about the election.
It's performance art.
So it's actually much less serious than pretending that Russian collusion swung the election and trying to have a sitting president removed for it? Cool.
 

Filthy

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So it's actually much less serious than pretending that Russian collusion swung the election and trying to have a sitting president removed for it? Cool.
yeah - good thing that never happened.

the thing about leveraging the interests of the US against personal gain, that happened and should have resulted in removal from office.

FWIW - it's still happening and the result should be the same.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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yeah - good thing that never happened.
You're correct in the literal sense, but we both know you're being very creative to get there.

Mueller report was what they were going to impeach for, and then Ukraine popped up so they turfed it. The DNC was very clearly playing politics with impeachments the same way these morons are doing it with recounts. People pretending like this recount is an assault on democracy and what we watched for the last 4 years is a totally different thing is ridiculous.
 

Filthy

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You're correct in the literal sense, but we both know you're being very creative to get there.

Mueller report was what they were going to impeach for, and then Ukraine popped up so they turfed it. The DNC was very clearly playing politics with impeachments the same way these morons are doing it with recounts. People pretending like this recount is an assault on democracy and what we watched for the last 4 years is a totally different thing is ridiculous.
what was Hillary and the DNC doing in June of 2016? were they using state legislatures where they had a majority to fund asinine fraudits to convince donors that the election was stolen? Was the DNC ousting people from leadership positions for saying the election was authentic?

it's not the same. it's not even close. What the RNC is doing right now is unprecedented.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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what was Hillary and the DNC doing in June of 2016? were they using state legislatures where they had a majority to fund asinine fraudits to convince donors that the election was stolen? Was the DNC ousting people from leadership positions for saying the election was authentic?
They were coming up with fake dossiers and using empty reports to try to remove a sitting president.

it's not the same. it's not even close.
It's not the same, but it is close. If some GOP member wins in 2024, the DNC will be trying to prevent the election from being certified because we've now entered the point in American history where checks and balances are used as weapons instead of what they're meant to be used for.

What the RNC is doing right now is unprecedented.
By technical definition, yes. In any practical sense, no.
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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just let the recount happen without problem and if nothing is found, everyone can stfu and go on with their lives

so much resistance, it actually seem super suspect
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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just let the recount happen without problem and if nothing is found, everyone can stfu and go on with their lives

so much resistance, it actually seem super suspect
Didn’t you say the same thing during the first recount?

Does the next stfu happen again during the next recount?

And does this hold the same weight if it’s so bipartisan
 

Filthy

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just let the recount happen without problem and if nothing is found, everyone can stfu and go on with their lives

so much resistance, it actually seem super suspect
you realize this isn't a recount? or nah?
 

John Lee Pettimore

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I disagree. This is a shitty legal defence.

Not criminally responsible due to mental retardation rarely works as a defence and when it does the individual often gets locked up until they are deemed competent.
Oh yeah, it certainly is a shitty defence, and I personally would rather be in jail than forcibly confined to a mental health ward. But what else is there for them, in terms of a defence? Either they are gullible retards who were so stupid that they willingly and enthusiastically rotted their minds with poisonous garbage because of their childlike crush on an authoritarian, anti-democracy moron......... or they knowingly and deliberately travelled across the country to commit a violent act of domestic terrorism.

Personally, if I was in charge, anyone who set foot in the Capitol building gets five years. That's the starting point, and they would be lucky to get that. Usually, traitors who launch a failed insurrection get the rope.

??
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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Didn’t you say the same thing during the first recount?

Does the next stfu happen again during the next recount?

And does this hold the same weight if it’s so bipartisan
they didn't let it happen, all kinds of resistance

stfu will happen if the recount is done properly