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Pretty definitive statement that it doesn't look like it was deliberately created by the Chinese as a bioweapon.
Which was the right-wing bullshit that it was addressing.
Well, smallpox was not created by humans, has not had a case of community transmission in almost half a century (thanks, vaccines!)....... but still exists in scientific labs.
If a carelessly-handled smallpox sample escapes one of those labs and gets into the local populace, does that mean that smallpox was deliberately engineered as a weapon, because the outbreak was traced to a lab?
Objectively the problem is MUCH worse on the right, and you will be absolutely unable to construct a coherent case to show that this is not in fact true.
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Oooo I bet you are ...paid to post ..paid shill.
We can see right through you ...now do what you do ....
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Step aside son, and let the man go through!
This is what the "Bottom Line" says:Also,@JorgeMasvidalsBeard, I skimmed the article while on my lunch break.
First, it was published more than two months ago.
Second, it doesn't say much if anything about how the virus got loose into the human population. It says that its properties are not consistent with being human-engineered as a bio-weapon, which was the claim that the article was addressing. But that's not the same as definitively saying that it did not escape from a lab, is it.
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Seems like a pretty definitive statement.
Again, you're asking for someone's opinion on something that's subjective. People have different priorities what I think is egregious you might believe is no big deal, and vice versa. Objectively however, misinformation is coming from both "sides" in large quantities.
I could easily construct a rational case. You'd look at it and say "No, that stuff doesn't matter!" As I said, you're asking subjective questions.
Regarding Snopes it states that covid wasn't created by people at all, not just that is isn't a bioweapon.
How many elected Democrats refused to admit - or to vote to certify - Trump's win in 2016.
Come back with some names. If you want to start with the "both sides" bullshit, then any refusal to concede the L should start with Hillary herself.
Except that didn't happen, did it.
On the other side, two-thirds of Republican voters believe that Biden's win was solely the result of voter fraud.
THAT is the mainstream, DEFAULT position of the right.
There is just nothing like that on the other side. You can't pretend like there is.
Oh yeah......... sure......... you could make a decent case........ if you chose to........ buuuuuuut.......... you won't. What a surprise!
And that clashes with what I suggested...... how?
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The Democrats moved to impeach on the grounds that Trump had colluded with the Russians to win the election. To me those 2 events both undermine the electoral process equally, I don't care that they aren't identical.
Because you continue invoking the bioweapon conspiracy. They didn't just say it wasn't created as a bioweapon, they said it was natural in origin. Granted, given what we know now I find it shocking that people would still think bioweapon is completely off the table.
Well, tell it to the FBI.
RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN 2016 U.S. ELECTIONS | Federal Bureau of Investigation
CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT AN OFFENSE AGAINST THE UNITED STATES; FALSE REGISTRATION OF A DOMAIN NAME; AGGRAVATED IDENTITY THEFT; CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MONEY LAUNDERING
www.fbi.gov
We'd know a lot more about it, of course, if the Republicans hadn't joined hands and collectively stonewalled the fuck out of every step of every investigation.
And then the Republican-appointed Attorney General flat out lied to the nation about the content of the Mueller report, before it was released.
So there's that.
Any more bullshit that you're going to just regurgitate from Trump rally signs and act like it's real?
You really, honestly have no idea what these cunts are doing right now, and what a disaster the midterms and the next Presidential election are going to be because of the Republican's unified full court press to invalidate American democracy itself, do you.
Sigh.
Are you trolling, or are you legitimately a bit thick?
The virus can be natural in origin, and ALSO released from a lab.
Smallpox is natural in origin, no longer exists in the outside world, but does exist in research labs.
If a carelessly-handled smallpox sample escapes the lab and gets into the community, does that mean smallpox was artificially created? Yes, according to JorgeMasvidalsBeard.
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The above is why I suggested there was no sense in engaging. You're trying to obfuscate objective facts in suport of your subjective opinions.Well, tell it to the FBI.
RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN 2016 U.S. ELECTIONS | Federal Bureau of Investigation
CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT AN OFFENSE AGAINST THE UNITED STATES; FALSE REGISTRATION OF A DOMAIN NAME; AGGRAVATED IDENTITY THEFT; CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MONEY LAUNDERING
We'd know a lot more about it, of course, if the Republicans hadn't joined hands and collectively stonewalled the fuck out of every step of every investigation.
And then the Republican-appointed Attorney General flat out lied to the nation about the content of the Mueller report, before it was released.
So there's that.
Any more bullshit that you're going to just regurgitate from Trump rally signs and act like it's real?
You really, honestly have no idea what these cunts are doing right now, and what a disaster the midterms and the next Presidential election are going to be because of the Republican's unified full court press to invalidate American democracy itself, do you.
Sigh.
Are you trolling, or are you legitimately a bit thick?
The virus can be natural in origin, and ALSO released from a lab.
Smallpox is natural in origin, no longer exists in the outside world, but does exist in research labs.
If a carelessly-handled smallpox sample escapes the lab and gets into the community, does that mean smallpox was artificially created? Yes, according to JorgeMasvidalsBeard.
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Told you that you wouldn't be able to make a case for your "both sides" bullshit.
Feel free to chant some more Trump rally slogans, though. Let me guess, Hunter Biden is the same level of corruption and nepotism as Jared Kushner, right?
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So the Dems moved to impeach based on abuse of power AND obstruction of Congress (you missed that part, but we're not expecting you to be honest or know any better.)
This was confirmed by the FBI to have occurred.
Later, Trump lost the election. The entire Republican Party then immediately flushed American democracy down the toilet so as to keep embracing lies and mental retardation, and avoid confronting the delusion that he actually won.
Both the same, y'all. Great job laying out your case. ?
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This was confirmed by the FBI to have occurred.
Later, Trump lost the election. The entire Republican Party then immediately flushed American democracy down the toilet so as to keep embracing lies and mental retardation, and avoid confronting the delusion that he actually won.
Both the same, y'all. Great job laying out your case. ?
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Told you that you wouldn't be able to make a case for your "both sides" bullshit.
The above is why I suggested there was no sense in engaging. You're trying to obfuscate objective facts in suport of your subjective opinions.
The above is why I suggested there was no sense in engaging. You're trying to obfuscate objective facts in suport of your subjective opinions.
Well, it's true.Told you that you wouldn't be able to make a case for your "both sides" bullshit.
The above is why I suggested there was no sense in engaging. You're trying to obfuscate objective facts in suport of your subjective opinions.
The two sides aren't the same. And his quote-unquote "argument" of saying "the Dems said that Russia interfered in the election......... AND THEY DIDN'T!" is just bullshit lies. He says he's right, and backed it with his feelings. I say he's wrong, and backed it with a wanted poster from fbi.gov, seeking 12 Russians on charges of interfering with the 2016 election.
So, there's that.
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That isn't what I said. Thank you for proving my overall point though.
How many women have uttered that sentence to ya?
So what were you saying to illustrate that both sides are effectively the same for misinformation?
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Cause she can't speak the language bruv.
I feel like we are talking yuuge numbers here tho.
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I see how you guys are going round after round with each other. I'm just saying the media and the stories that they write are all trenched in money and money comes from powerful people who want you to say things they want the public to hear. Not necessarily things that are true. I'm along the lines that all politicians are full of shit and the minute you buy into their shit you are also shit!
You've clearly demonstrated you'll go out of your way to sabotage a potentially productive conversation, so I've no interest, thank you.
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Except my guy Trudeau rite?!?I see how you guys are going round after round with each other. I'm just saying the media and the stories that they write are all trenched in money and money comes from powerful people who want you to say things they want the public to hear. Not necessarily things that are true. I'm along the lines that all politicians are full of shit and the minute you buy into their shit you are also shit!
OK.
I've addressed your comments by linking to official sources, and giving specific examples.
I've also agreed with you on Snopes not being infallible, though I don't believe that "not artificially-created" is exactly the same as "didn't escape from a lab", as you seem to.
What have you done?
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Not worth your energy with the willfully obtuse, friend.
And we have to concede Hunter is pretty much a disaster. More on him ahead, I'm afraid, and I'm hopeful it's not too costly.