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I know you’ve been here for a entire month
But you need to understand that BeardOfKnowledge @JorgeMasvidalsBeard and the majority of people you bash have been communicating with each other for 5-6 years here. The idea you have any idea who is who or if they’re a troll is pretty comical.

you mentioned in a previous post that you can basically say what you want because we’re all strangers that will never meet. Well I’ve met about a dozen members here in person . And several others have met in person as well. @Wild and @Splinty plan early on was to have a forum where people spoke like they were face to face and showed respect. Maybe give that a try.
So because a person clock's someone who they are early doors they shouldn't say it?

I'd meet anyone here. I've even extended via pm's meets for some folks if they ever rock up to my shores. I'd put them up. And I mean that.

I'd genuinely love to meet that one twat in person.
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
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So because a person clock's someone who they are early doors they shouldn't say it?

I'd meet anyone here. I've even extended via pm's meets for some folks if they ever rock up to my shores. I'd put them up. And I mean that.

I'd genuinely love to meet that one twat in person.
Gonna have to help me out with translation
Haven’t watched Monty python in a few years
 
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I actually have no interest in your bullshit. Clearly you're not a person who is an honest, good-faith poster.
You've been nothing but a prick to me even after I went out of my way to find points of agreement and engage honestly with you. I also see you in other threads doing the exact same tired holier-than-thou routine with other posters, making everything very personal while absolutely refusing to engage in any on-topic discussion where any of your binary, surface-level bullshit might actually be challenged and found to be just that - bullshit.

That's a troll, and a boring one.

Stop being a boring and stupid troll, and I'll stop telling you that you're a boring and stupid troll. Simple as that. ?

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@conor mcgregor nut hugger needs your feisty lib nature. Please don't disappoint him.
You've been given a long leash because I both understand your frustration at idiocy but also understand maybe other sites encourage the name calling.

Attack the idea. Stop attacking the people.

sparkuri @sparkuri thinking that bill gates is putting 5G bioweapon into me is baseless, has no evidence, and is just a bridge to further conspiracy nonsense in my estimation. But I still don't need to tell him to get fucked or that he's a fucking idiot.

Reset your targets.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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@conor mcgregor nut hugger needs your feisty lib nature. Please don't disappoint him.
You've been given a long leash because I both understand your frustration at idiocy but also understand maybe other sites encourage the name calling.

Attack the idea. Stop attacking the people.

sparkuri @sparkuri thinking that bill gates is putting 5G bioweapon into me is baseless, has no evidence, and is just a bridge to further conspiracy nonsense in my estimation. But I still don't need to tell him to get fucked or that he's a fucking idiot.

Reset your targets.
Do the members he targets receive the same leash?
 

John Lee Pettimore

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May 18, 2021
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I know you’ve been here for a entire month
But you need to understand that BeardOfKnowledge @JorgeMasvidalsBeard and the majority of people you bash have been communicating with each other for 5-6 years here. The idea you have any idea who is who or if they’re a troll is pretty comical.
The first interaction I had with this guy, rather than respond to what I said, he told me that I'm some guy I've never heard of who doesn't post here any more.

I told him no, I'm new here, I don't know who anyone is. He basically called me a liar.

Okay - good start. This is a discussion board that is open to anybody who signs up. How do I respond to being told that I'm an alias? I said it wasn't so and that was rejected not because of any evidence (there is none because it's not true), but because that's what he wants to think. What is the appropriate stance to take after that? Put him on ignore? Because I'm not whoever he wants to think I am, based on no evidence?

you mentioned in a previous post that you can basically say what you want because we’re all strangers that will never meet. Well I’ve met about a dozen members here in person . And several others have met in person as well. @Wild and @Splinty plan early on was to have a forum where people spoke like they were face to face and showed respect. Maybe give that a try.
Great. It's good to have a forum that isn't ruined with toxicity. We should speak to each other with respect.

Unfortunately, this is an international message board, not a private WhatsApp group between friends. And posting stupid gifs in lieu of honest responses to on-topic points, is not respectful discussion.

I am only rude to him AFTER he responds to a balanced, on-topic post with a sneering, sarcastic response where he acts like King Shit and refuses to acknowledge anything that was said. And I have offered to reset - he isn't interested.

This is a discussion board. If he can't handle the give and take of a political topic, then he's not interested in a discussion. Is he. And if that's the case, he should stay out of the political threads. We don't (or shouldn't, at least) all have to agree on everything all the time - that's boring - but we should at least be able to back our statements up, instead of just whining that the other guy is a prick for responding to a post with anything other than "great post mate absolutely correct." Is that fair?

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John Lee Pettimore

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Attack the idea. Stop attacking the people.
Problem with that is, I have literally gone point by point to illustrate - with evidence - that the "idea" he has posted is not factual and here is why.

And I get a Seinfeld gif in return, and then a smug dismissal.

If I try again but this time include a bunch of criticism of Biden and the Dems, to try to extend an olive branch - I get the same.

That's not respectful dialogue. That's a troll.

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Problem with that is, I have literally gone point by point to illustrate - with evidence - that the "idea" he has posted is not factual and here is why.

And I get a Seinfeld gif in return, and then a smug dismissal.

Laugh at him. Tell him you're not going to waste your time anymore and move on to the next person that wants to engage.
You you know this in real life but now on the internet you forgotten the worst thing you can do as a new guy is show a weakness. They know the GIF messes with you and you bite it every time.
Let It go take the power back and champion your messages instead of worrying about tacking somebody who doesn't want to listen anyway.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Laugh at him. Tell him you're not going to waste your time anymore and move on to the next person that wants to engage.
You you know this in real life but now on the internet you forgotten the worst thing you can do as a new guy is show a weakness. They know the GIF messes with you and you bite it every time.
Let It go take the power back and champion your messages instead of worrying about tacking somebody who doesn't want to listen anyway.
I'm not looking to fling shit at you, or anyone else. I'm not offended by this stuff, and I don't hold grudges. It's an internet forum. There's nothing at stake. Permaban my IP, and my life is not affected at all. JorgeMasvidalsBeard and I can reset to neutral immediately at any time, if he wants to. Now, or in the future.

But if I make an on-topic post pointing out the flaws and inaccuracies in his evidence-free blanket statements, and he responds to that by posting a Seinfeld gif because he can't defend his own bullshit, can't stand to be challenged and knows posting that gif will annoy me....... then guess what?

That is a troll.

Maybe get on his case to either participate in a discussion without being a troll, or don't post in that thread.

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MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
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The first interaction I had with this guy, rather than respond to what I said, he told me that I'm some guy I've never heard of who doesn't post here any more.

I told him no, I'm new here, I don't know who anyone is. He basically called me a liar.

Okay - good start. This is a discussion board that is open to anybody who signs up. How do I respond to being told that I'm an alias? I said it wasn't so and that was rejected not because of any evidence (there is none because it's not true), but because that's what he wants to think. What is the appropriate stance to take after that? Put him on ignore? Because I'm not whoever he wants to think I am, based on no evidence?



Great. It's good to have a forum that isn't ruined with toxicity. We should speak to each other with respect.

Unfortunately, this is an international message board, not a private WhatsApp group between friends. And posting stupid gifs in lieu of honest responses to on-topic points, is not respectful discussion.

I am only rude to him AFTER he responds to a balanced, on-topic post with a sneering, sarcastic response where he acts like King Shit and refuses to acknowledge anything that was said. And I have offered to reset - he isn't interested.

This is a discussion board. If he can't handle the give and take of a political topic, then he's not interested in a discussion. Is he. And if that's the case, he should stay out of the political threads. We don't (or shouldn't, at least) all have to agree on everything all the time - that's boring - but we should at least be able to back our statements up, instead of just whining that the other guy is a prick for responding to a post with anything other than "great post mate absolutely correct." Is that fair?

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What might help you
1- you post like the Vutu member that they refer to. He was quick to call people idiots and it’s kinda a joke that has been thrown around here for years since he was banished. I’d have pmd a mod and asked what that’s about first.

2- if memes and gifs are insulting to you then try those as a response instead of the name calling that’s against the sites rules.

3- if you believe a persons a troll be an adult and let that person be. Why do you want to spend hours a day communicating with people you believe are troll? Ignore function isa Great site feature.

4- the most important thing you need to understand
You’re on a fight forum talking politics. Maybe this isn’t the place for you to discuss that topic. Looked back through your posts and the only time you seem to go off the rails IMO is in the political threads.

Just some ideas to think about before the day comes where you post something that gets you banned. I’m not even saying you’re right or wrong but there are rules that we’re supposed to try and follow.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Basically, @Splinty, the problem is pretty simple.

He makes a blanket statement that is factually inaccurate.

I tell him "this is not actually the case, because x, y, z. What you are saying is actually garbage, show me I'm wrong if you can."

He can't handle that, so now I'm getting a lecture about how I'm not interested in a discussion. I don't respect that or consider it to be respectful dialogue, I'm sorry.

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Enock-O-Lypse Now!

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Basically, @Splinty, the problem is pretty simple.

He makes a blanket statement that is factually inaccurate.

I tell him "this is not actually the case, because x, y, z. What you are saying is actually garbage, show me I'm wrong if you can."

He can't handle that, so now I'm getting a lecture about how I'm not interested in a discussion. I don't respect that or consider it to be respectful dialogue, I'm sorry.

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Enock-O-Lypse Now!

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Kidding big boy, but please...let's stay on topic and take your crying to the support section.

This thread is to follow along with the 100% Legit Audit that will expose the voter fraud that took place in Maricopa County Arizona during the 2020 Presidential Elections.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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What might help you
1- you post like the Vutu member that they refer to. He was quick to call people idiots and it’s kinda a joke that has been thrown around here for years since he was banished. I’d have pmd a mod and asked what that’s about first.
Well clearly, I am not this Vutu guy who hasn't posted here for years. So perhaps I am owed an apology for being repeatedly told that I am him? I'm not of course - I don't take this place anywhere near that seriously. But it's a bit of a cunt's trick to troll a noob with that as a way to avoid actually engaging with or addressing any of the points he made in a political themed post, would you agree?

2- if memes and gifs are insulting to you then try those as a response instead of the name calling that’s against the sites rules.
So I become a stupid troll, because he responds with that shit so maybe I should too? So there is no discussion at all, just people making pronouncements and posting stupid gifs if anyone challenges anything? Yeah....... thanks, but I'll take a pass on that. I'd rather read a good, solid post that I disagree with, than a stupid gif that I agree with.

3- if you believe a persons a troll be an adult and let that person be. Why do you want to send hours a day communicating with people you believe are troll? Ignore function isa Great site feature.
I don't spend "hours a day" here. I post from work for two minutes or five minutes between calls, in my downtime. The second a call comes in, I drop my phone and return to it later. Or when I get home, if I'm relaxing with the dog and the missus isn't home. On my days off, you'll barely see me.

4- the most important thing you need to understand
You’re on a fight forum talking politics. Maybe this isn’t the place for you to discuss that topic. Looked back through your posts and the only time you seem to go off the rails IMO is in the political threads.
I would have assumed that fight fans wouldn't be such sensitive crybabies.

And you are right, I will post about any topic under the sun, and this place has had a few threads (Canadian politics, for example) where I showed up and freely admitted "I have no idea about this stuff", and don't impose any opinions on anybody, but simply ask basic questions to try to educate myself. I'm actually pretty easy to get along with....... if you're not a crybaby troll. I don't care if you disagree with me, I'm not the font of all wisdom. Which is why I give a shit about sourcing, btw. Because I'm aware that just because I WANT something to be the case - or assume that it is - that doesn't actually mean anything.

Just some ideas to think about before the day comes where you post something that gets you banned. I’m not even saying you’re right or wrong but there are rules that we’re supposed to try and follow.
And as I said, I am perfectly willing to reset at any time. I did get my hand slapped away when I extended it, though. (that may have been jason73 @jason73, to be fair. Who I have since interacted with entirely cordially in another thread, for the record.)

Anyway my shift ends in half an hour, and this shit has been litigated more than enough already. Without dishonest trolls and/or conspiracy cement heads, I'll contribute in good faith to all sorts of threads. I'm just not particularly interested in participating in a knitting circle where we all have to tiptoe around in case someone gets triggered by hearing an opposing point of view backed by evidence. ?

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MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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Well clearly, I am not this Vutu guy who hasn't posted here for years. So perhaps I am owed an apology for being repeatedly told that I am him? I'm not of course - I don't take this place anywhere near that seriously. But it's a bit of a cunt's trick to troll a noob with that as a way to avoid actually engaging with or addressing any of the points he made in a political themed post, would you agree?



So I become a stupid troll, because he responds with that shit so maybe I should too? So there is no discussion at all, just people making pronouncements and posting stupid gifs if anyone challenges anything? Yeah....... thanks, but I'll take a pass on that. I'd rather read a good, solid post that I disagree with, than a stupid gif that I agree with.



I don't spend "hours a day" here. I post from work for two minutes or five minutes between calls, in my downtime. The second a call comes in, I drop my phone and return to it later. Or when I get home, if I'm relaxing with the dog and the missus isn't home. On my days off, you'll barely see me.



I would have assumed that fight fans wouldn't be such sensitive crybabies.

And you are right, I will post about any topic under the sun, and this place has had a few threads (Canadian politics, for example) where I showed up and freely admitted "I have no idea about this stuff", and don't impose any opinions on anybody, but simply ask basic questions to try to educate myself. I'm actually pretty easy to get along with....... if you're not a crybaby troll. I don't care if you disagree with me, I'm not the font of all wisdom. Which is why I give a shit about sourcing, btw. Because I'm aware that just because I WANT something to be the case - or assume that it is - that doesn't actually mean anything.



And as I said, I am perfectly willing to reset at any time. I did get my hand slapped away when I extended it, though. (that may have been jason73 @jason73, to be fair. Who I have since interacted with entirely cordially in another thread, for the record.)

Anyway my shift ends in half an hour, and this shit has been litigated more than enough already. Without stupid trolls, I'll contribute in good faith to all sorts of threads. I'm just not particularly interested in participating in a knitting circle where we all have to tiptoe around in case someone gets triggered by hearing an opposing point of view backed by evidence.

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I’m sorry someone called you Vutu

you don’t seem to understand what people are trying to explain to you and will be banned sooner than later. The site has seen this happen multiple times over the years and unless @Splinty changes the TOS of the site your clock is ticking. Up to you not any other poster to stop that from happening.
 
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Well clearly, I am not this Vutu guy who hasn't posted here for years. So perhaps I am owed an apology for being repeatedly told that I am him? I'm not of course - I don't take this place anywhere near that seriously. But it's a bit of a cunt's trick to troll a noob with that as a way to avoid actually engaging with or addressing any of the points he made in a political themed post, would you agree?



So I become a stupid troll, because he responds with that shit so maybe I should too? So there is no discussion at all, just people making pronouncements and posting stupid gifs if anyone challenges anything? Yeah....... thanks, but I'll take a pass on that. I'd rather read a good, solid post that I disagree with, than a stupid gif that I agree with.



I don't spend "hours a day" here. I post from work for two minutes or five minutes between calls, in my downtime. The second a call comes in, I drop my phone and return to it later. Or when I get home, if I'm relaxing with the dog and the missus isn't home. On my days off, you'll barely see me.



I would have assumed that fight fans wouldn't be such sensitive crybabies.

And you are right, I will post about any topic under the sun, and this place has had a few threads (Canadian politics, for example) where I showed up and freely admitted "I have no idea about this stuff", and don't impose any opinions on anybody, but simply ask basic questions to try to educate myself. I'm actually pretty easy to get along with....... if you're not a crybaby troll. I don't care if you disagree with me, I'm not the font of all wisdom. Which is why I give a shit about sourcing, btw. Because I'm aware that just because I WANT something to be the case - or assume that it is - that doesn't actually mean anything.



And as I said, I am perfectly willing to reset at any time. I did get my hand slapped away when I extended it, though. (that may have been jason73 @jason73, to be fair. Who I have since interacted with entirely cordially in another thread, for the record.)

Anyway my shift ends in half an hour, and this shit has been litigated more than enough already. Without dishonest trolls and/or conspiracy cement heads, I'll contribute in good faith to all sorts of threads. I'm just not particularly interested in participating in a knitting circle where we all have to tiptoe around in case someone gets triggered by hearing an opposing point of view backed by evidence. ?

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Im pretty friggin triggered you don’t follow Canadian politics, to be honest.