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Rambo John J

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I don't have a problem with emergency use authorization. That doesn't mean it's some sort of neurotoxin. But "There's no long term side effects." and "Turns out you need a booster because we didn't realize that after 6 months it stops working as intended." can't be reconciled and that needs to be acknowledged when people are hesitant.
I don't have issue with emergency use
I do have issue with emergency use that requires no other valid treatments available...because all treatments should be on the table

I don't think blind faith in an EUA allowed experimental vaccine(experimental therapy) is acceptable if that means censoring and misinformationing every other possible treatment/therapy other than the EUA allowed experimental vaccines(experimental therapy)
 

Wintermute

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Apr 24, 2015
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I posted a video a few posts above the post you quoted in which DeSantis appears to agree to start going back to daily case reports.
Just watched- releasing their county-by-county numbers daily would be great, I don't know why he would do it now, or how it serves him here... Maybe he's thinking about declaring a state of emergency now and the numbers somehow help?
 

Rambo John J

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Filthy

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Mississippi is out of ICU beds, University of MS is converting a parking garage to COVID care.
 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Cimmunity
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Worth a look re:ADE Filthy @Filthy


 

Splinty

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Worth a look re:ADE Filthy @Filthy


There's not a single thing in this conclusion that I disagree with

In conclusion, ADE may occur in people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors) and then exposed to a Delta variant. Although this potential risk has been cleverly anticipated before the massive use of Covid-19 vaccines
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, the ability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies to mediate infection enhancement in vivo has never been formally demonstrated. However, although the results obtained so far have been rather reassuring
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, to the best of our knowledge ADE of Delta variants has not been specifically assessed. Since our data indicate that Delta variants are especially well recognized by infection enhancing antibodies targeting the NTD, the possibility of ADE should be further investigated as it may represent a potential risk for mass vaccination during the current Delta variant pandemic. In this respect, second generation vaccines
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with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida. Schools there are defying Gov. DeSantis' ban on mask mandates.
  • Four teachers from Broward County, Florida died from COVID-19 on Tuesday and Wednesday.
  • One was a high school teacher while another taught elementary school. A teaching assistant and the fourth teacher were from the same school.
  • The deaths come even as Broward County's school board voted to defy a ban on mask mandates on school premises.
 

Wintermute

Putin is gay
Apr 24, 2015
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4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida. Schools there are defying Gov. DeSantis' ban on mask mandates.
  • Four teachers from Broward County, Florida died from COVID-19 on Tuesday and Wednesday.
  • One was a high school teacher while another taught elementary school. A teaching assistant and the fourth teacher were from the same school.
  • The deaths come even as Broward County's school board voted to defy a ban on mask mandates on school premises.
Here we go. DeSatan is fucked.
 

Splinty

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4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida. Schools there are defying Gov. DeSantis' ban on mask mandates.
  • Four teachers from Broward County, Florida died from COVID-19 on Tuesday and Wednesday.
  • One was a high school teacher while another taught elementary school. A teaching assistant and the fourth teacher were from the same school.
  • The deaths come even as Broward County's school board voted to defy a ban on mask mandates on school premises.

For grade school children it's probably an easy calculus that they could all be in a room together and catch coronavirus and nearly all of them would be perfectly fine. Even at this point it appears that historically flu is still killing more children than this is.

But then what do you do about the teachers? I have classroom full of children and a 50-year-old teacher with blood pressure and sugar problems.

In my area a significant portion of children live with their grandparents due to poverty and drug use. If you create an outbreak amongst the children what's the second halo effects for these families?

I don't have great answers for these and I think they really are at the core of the highest risk for schools. There may be some different calculus when you get into the high schoolers but for a great majority of students this is very low risk. But there's not only students in the building and there can't be.

Also be on mask You've had a year now the schools could have retrofitted and I just think about increased ventilation and other strategies that are less politically contentious and also probably useful adjuncts to masking.
 

Filthy

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Also be on mask You've had a year now the schools could have retrofitted and I just think about increased ventilation and other strategies that are less politically contentious and also probably useful adjuncts to masking.
we only had enough trillions for the defense industry and the bankers.

maybe next pandemic.