You are obviously way above our league in intelligence, education and social skills. Why are you wasting your time here at all?
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Im gonna post whatever the fuck I want within the rules of TMMAC
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It is not brought up as an option here when mandates are put out for healthcare workers in a public setting.
Here it is be vaccinated, be tested weekly(Time and Test paid for by employer not state), or lose your job. I don't see how antibody test gets left by the wayside and not a valid option.
It is about antibodies isn't it?
IMO it isn't about antibodies as much as is about agenda as much as it is about science.
Those rules I posted above go into effect on sept 30th in oregon for public setting healthcare. Those rules "expire" in January(probably will become permanent IMO and include whatever boosters and vaccines the state wants to put in you).
I know two doctors that are retiring early, and a bunch of healthcare workers that are quitting their public healthcare jobs due to this...some of them are vaccinated but they disagree on principle...states are overstepping their boundaries, oregon is one of them...
IMO this will further weaken healthcare here as some of the most valuable and experienced workers are going to do other jobs for now and see how it all shakes out...Some are quitting public healthcare for jobs in private settings, I know about 10 of these such people.
I DON'T know everything about everything. That's why there's a lot of political threads you don't see me in.
What should be done in Afghanistan? Fucked if I know - therefore I'm not going to just pick a side and dump shit on the other side. I have nothing to say because I am ignorant of the situation.
Same with the vaccine threads. I don't know fucking anything about virology. So I'm not going to pretend like I'm some kind of authority just because I've watched a couple of spooky YouTube videos.
Brexit? I know very little about it, so you won't see me take a strong stand.
Economics? Banking? The housing crisis? All things I know very little about, so you won't see me comment. I don't like to run my mouth about something if I'm ignorant about it.
I just can't stand stupid lies. That's it. Post garbage conspiracy lie after garbage conspiracy lie after garbage conspiracy lie - and be completely unable to defend any of it in your own words, because you're just spamming it - and yeah, I'll likely be a cunt to you. Especially so if I try to extend an olive branch, and you're just a prick regardless.
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And so will I. It's just that when you post stupid conspiracy garbage that is targeted at ignorant simpletons, I'll call you an ignorant simpleton. Sorry.
Hey, I link plenty of stuff here myself. When you catch me posting garbage lies, pull me up on it. If I'm unable to defend my stance because it's all based more or less entirely on stupid lies, then call me a moron all you want. Deal?
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Oh I'm sorry, you're right, lies are the same as facts, and conspiracy shit does no harm to society, and every lie is just as valid as any fact. Reality is irrelevant. Thank you for your wisdom.
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Don't challenge him, ever. His stupid conspiracy lies are just as valid as any actual reality-based source.
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At this point you clearly need a conservatorship to ink a deal of that magnitude.
Sorry, I don't answer direct questions. I have learned that that's not the way it works here. Instead, I will respond to your short, easily-understood question with a mocking gif, because lol.
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You are correct. They do seem to be ignoring antibodies. I can't answer as to why. I do know they are recommending the vaccine even if you've had covid. (I know you are shocked by that. Lol. But different debate there).
However, medical personnel have been "forced" or given ultimatums in regards to vaccines for as long as I can remember. And some are put in place to protect yourself much like a seat belt. Example, there are some you can refuse but you have to sign a waiver acknowledging that you know you are at a higher risk to contract the disease/virus. Some are mandatory/ ultimatum such as get a flu vaccine or wear a mask all year. This is designed to protect the patients from you.
These are accepted mandates in the medical field. If you don't agree then you are wise to leave the field.
I will really blow your mind here, if it is feasible and affordable I believe all healthcare workers should be tested weekly (vaccinated or not).
Canada doesn't have anti-body or rapid testing. Our government announced vaccine passports for all federal employees, air travelers and a bunch of other folks yesterday.
That's an improvement over personal insults.Sorry, I don't answer direct questions. I have learned that that's not the way it works here. Instead, I will respond to your short, easily-understood question with a mocking gif, because lol.
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Carry on.
Do you prefer that we have a discussion where we can disagree with each other without sulking and pouting like a toddler?
If yes, then you're doing better than most of the middle-aged men on here. Apparently it's a right wing circle jerk, or it's nothing.
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@Splinty , I saw you posted that
@MMAHAWK saw a video that was concerning with no context.
I posted dozens of videos with context.
I also see that you don't trust VAERS (and now Eudraviligence? ) as sources of data.
For 30 years these have been accepted by the community as likely "1% of cases".
Having had been affected personally twice by vaccines, one with death, one permanent disability, and both not accepted either by VAERS or the CDC vax court, my question to you is this:
Exactly who or what source will you believe?
@MMAHAWK saw a video that was concerning with no context.I posted dozens of videos with context.
I also see that you don't trust VAERS (and now Eudraviligence? ) as sources of data.
For 30 years these have been accepted by the community as likely "1% of cases".
Having had been affected personally twice by vaccines, one with death, one permanent disability, and both not accepted either by VAERS or the CDC vax court, my question to you is this:
Exactly who or what source will you believe?
Doesn't blow my mind.
Blows my mind that they are being treated as separate groups.
Would be nice to have a reliable and uniform test if doing such things, we have neither.
What else should people be tested for weekly/daily? Once a week may help some, but it still leaves the rest of the week to be a "spreader". Where does it end?
Mandates for an vaccine that has potential for creating variants and is completely untested as far as safety goes blow my mind.
Science and Logic have left the building as far as many of these rules and mandates go.
Sucks to see some of the best healthcare workers leaving the field they enjoy and are so skilled at...I don't know the percentage but even a few percent is a hit to the system and not a good thing IMO.
We are certainly in uncharted waters and controls are becoming more extreme, for better or for worse.
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I've posted multiple. I've also replied to several of yours stating "I agree".
The data guides.
You've posted a lot of anecdotes and then get mad at me when I post the data behind the claims.
You have turned off notifications so you miss a lot.
Further you are completely out of the conversation in that I was backing
@MMAHAWK against the attack of
@John Lee Pettimore framing of the conversation.