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Wintermute

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peter_weyland said:
I wonder what his move is now- he can't roll over on this, he's being made to look like a fool, but he can't fight the teachers' unions. The "Libs" are owning him and that's worse than death for a Republican angling for those sweet, sweet Magat votes
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He's either losing or slightly ahead depending on which poll you look at, but his campaign still has 10x the cash as the two leading contenders for the Democratic nomination combined.

His stonewalling on covid restrictions has cost him in the short term, but with over a year to go before the election, Crist needs to make up that financing gap. And Fried needs to get her name out there more.
 
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peter_weyland said:
Also- @conor mcgregor nut hugger we thinking Trump incites another Insurrection/call to arms this weekend at his rally in Alabama? I know a lot of Magats think he'll be reinstated on the day LOL
www.al.com

Former president coming to ‘heart of Trump country’ on return to Alabama

Former President Donald Trump will hold an outdoor rally Saturday night in Cullman.
www.al.com www.al.com

No mask mandate in place. Get ready for a lot (more) dead Alabamans.
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Alabama's ICUs are already at 100% capacity. Hopefully Georgia has the hospital space. Florida doesn't.
 
Wintermute

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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
He's either losing or slightly ahead depending on which poll you look at, but his campaign still has 10x the cash as the two leading contenders for the Democratic nomination combined.

His stonewalling on covid restrictions has cost him in the short term, but with over a year to go before the election, Crist needs to make up that financing gap. And Fried needs to get her name out there more.
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No question- I would think his value to the Patriot Party is in holding on to Florida, not running for President, so he definitely has to clinch that. But right now, he's losing face and he will have to do something about it... Usually when you don't like what people are saying, you change the conversation, which it sounds like is what he's doing by trying to talk tough to Biden, and moving blame for the COVID spike to illegals crossing the southern border... 1,000 miles away from his state.
 
Filthy

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Scientist recovers coronavirus gene sequences secretly deleted last year in Wuhan

He finds 13 sequences from some of the earliest cases in Wuhan.
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According to Zimmer, about a year ago 241 genetic sequences from coronavirus patients had gone missing from an online database called Sequence Read Archive that's maintained by the National Institutes of Health (NIH)....

"There is no plausible scientific reason for the deletion: the sequences are perfectly concordant with the samples described in Wang et al. (2020a,b)," Bloom wrote in bioRxiv. "There are no corrections to the paper, the paper states human subjects approval was obtained, and the sequencing shows no evidence of plasmid or sample-to-sample contamination. It therefore seems likely the sequences were deleted to obscure their existence."
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uh oh, Tony...
 
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Filthy said:
www.livescience.com

Scientist recovers coronavirus gene sequences secretly deleted last year in Wuhan

He finds 13 sequences from some of the earliest cases in Wuhan.
www.livescience.com www.livescience.com



uh oh, Tony...
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"They're three steps more similar to the bat coronaviruses than the viruses from the Huanan fish market," Bloom told The New York Times. This new data hints that the virus was circulating in Wuhan well before it showed up at the seafood market, Bloom said.

"This fact suggests that the market sequences, which are the primary focus of the genomic epidemiology in the joint WHO-China report ... are not representative of the viruses that were circulating in Wuhan in late December of 2019 and early January of 2020,
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Just based on timeline of early cases it's clear that the seafood market was not the origin.
But this further confirms it based on family tree.

The question is, was the seafood market focus incompetence by the Chinese or a smoke screen to focus attention there?

Also, If the seafood market was not the originating areas, the proximity to the Wuhan lab of the seafood market (One of the main reasons it became suspicious) matters significantly less.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Dick Niaz said:
It’s fine we disagree. I think it may come down to where we are each setting the goalposts. If the threshold is perfection, then let the criticisms rain down. However, for those of us with direct knowledge and appreciation for what goes into a developing a vaccine and bringing it to market, the fact that we even have vaccines is nothing short of amazing. I would say governments and media have done an abysmal job of educating the public on the role of vaccines and the differences when it comes to COVID-19 compared to those on the CDC recommended schedule. People have the misguided belief that these are intended to be foolproof bubbles and two-jab permanent solutions, and are now making them more polarizing by instituting mandates, passports, and in some cases punitive punishments. They are now reaping what they sowed. Back to the main point, once again we can disagree on the goalposts but in my opinion ~96% success rate against morbidity and ~72% efficacy against moderate to severe disease for at least a 6m period is amazing.
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and you hit the nail right on the head. What the public is being told (literally) is that vaccines are the silver bullet that will end the pandemic. Not that they're a new to market somewhat experimental treatment. Even suggesting that they aren't the be all, end all can get you in trouble.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Splinty said:
Just based on timeline of early cases it's clear that the seafood market was not the origin.
But this further confirms it based on family tree.

The question is, was the seafood market focus incompetence by the Chinese or a smoke screen to focus attention there?

Also, If the seafood market was not the originating areas, the proximity to the Wuhan lab of the seafood market (One of the main reasons it became suspicious) matters significantly less.
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Weren't people who worked in the lab sick in November?
 
Wintermute

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Splinty said:
Just based on timeline of early cases it's clear that the seafood market was not the origin.
But this further confirms it based on family tree.

The question is, was the seafood market focus incompetence by the Chinese or a smoke screen to focus attention there?

Also, If the seafood market was not the originating areas, the proximity to the Wuhan lab of the seafood market (One of the main reasons it became suspicious) matters significantly less.
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The thing I keep coming back to is the Chinese response and the timeline of the Phase One Trade Talks...
 
Filthy

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Splinty said:
Just based on timeline of early cases it's clear that the seafood market was not the origin.
But this further confirms it based on family tree.

The question is, was the seafood market focus incompetence by the Chinese or a smoke screen to focus attention there?

Also, If the seafood market was not the originating areas, the proximity to the Wuhan lab of the seafood market (One of the main reasons it became suspicious) matters significantly less.
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the proximity of the lab to the seafood market was never of significance compared to the fact that it's a BSL4/BSL2 lab that's doing research on that type of virus, and they were researching it's ability to gain the function of human infectability.

that's why it was suspect...it's proximity to the seafood market didn't make it suspect - it made the official story suspect.
 
Poiupoiu

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Filthy said:
the proximity of the lab to the seafood market was never of significance compared to the fact that it's a BSL4/BSL2 lab that's doing research on that type of virus, and they were researching it's ability to gain the function of human infectability.

that's why it was suspect...it's proximity to the seafood market didn't make it suspect - it made the official story suspect.
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the lab is 15 km from the market. far

chinese people shop local
 
Filthy

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Poiupoiu said:
the lab is 15 km from the market. far

chinese people shop local
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it's literally across the river and a straight shot through the tunnel.

what's your point? nobody who works at lab lives across the river?
 
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