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Rambo John J

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Kinda admits the training was a shit failure. They didn't realize the training was ineffective for twenty years??

And now comes to the teenager's "it was all about the profits" conclusion.

Genius stuff
It was always about the profits and control of the region and it's resources

Can't speak to the training
 

Rambo John J

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It gets profit out of any war.
We didn't start that shit. And why shouldn't we get recompensed for doing the heavy lifting?
We didn't get compensated, I didn't make a dime...did you?

We paid for it with tax dollards



As far as who started it? Hmnnnn...I dunno
 

Sheepdog

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The whole peace accord was negotiated in a way That basically guaranteed the Taliban would rule
Because that was not a genuine peace accord. That was terms of surrender.

The US was stuck in purgatory, with the political leadership aware that the US had lost the war but the permanent state refusing to accept it. Under these circumstances, mess was inevitable and unavoidable.

I also think of lot of these silly ruminations about what Biden should have done come from a refusal to accept that we just lost the war. It's just 'Congress lost the Vietnam war' or 'the Jews and communists stabbed the German army in the back in World War 1' in a different form. It is an attempt to psychologically control what cannot be controlled by people who find the truth traumatic.

The Taliban ultimately had the biggest say in how Kabul fell, not Joe Biden.
 

Filthy

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Because that was not a genuine peace accord. That was terms of surrender.

The US was stuck in purgatory, with the political leadership aware that the US had lost the war but the permanent state refusing to accept it. Under these circumstances, mess was inevitable and unavoidable.

I also think of lot of these silly ruminations about what Biden should have done come from a refusal to accept that we just lost the war. It's just 'Congress lost the Vietnam war' or 'the Jews and communists stabbed the German army in the back in World War 1' in a different form. It is an attempt to psychologically control what cannot be controlled by people who find the truth traumatic.

The Taliban ultimately had the biggest say in how Kabul fell, not Joe Biden.
i literally had a friend tell me "we coulda won if the politicians had just let the military go to town."

LoL @ that Vietnam excuse.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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i literally had a friend tell me "we coulda won if the politicians had just let the military go to town."

LoL @ that Vietnam excuse.
"If we'd have just turned into Nazi Germany, we would have won a glorious victory for the Homeland."

??
 

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It was always about the profits and control of the region and it's resources

Can't speak to the training
Well that's what I mean. Profits and loss are natural to the process of warfare. It's like pointing out that the sun rises in the east and calling it a keen insight.
 

Rambo John J

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Well that's what I mean. Profits and loss are natural to the process of warfare. It's like pointing out that the sun rises in the east and calling it a keen insight.
I would argue that profit and resources are not simply natural to the process...they are the reason for the process.

I don't think it is a keen insight at all, I consider it War 101.
 

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Fucken load of shit. If the politicians had just let the troopers open up on a few this would've gone very different.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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I would argue that profit and resources are not simply natural to the process...they are the reason for the process.

I don't think it is a keen insight at all, I consider it War 101.
Canada has a shitload of natural resources and is right next door, you think they're in danger of a US invasion and occupation?

??
 

John Lee Pettimore

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I doubt it

Don't shit where you eat
Usually a good policy

Middle east has da minerals, da opium, da oil, and da stargates.
But the US could access a LOT of resources by annexing Canada. Why has that not been on the table? Last year Canada accounted for more than half of the US' oil imports, you're telling me there was not enough profit to be made in taking that over at any point in the last 75 years? I don't understand. Please explain.

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Rambo John J

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Afghanistan isn’t in the middle east
OK Lars, I read ya.
Still got some real goodies over there

Where is the middle east border, and what do you refer to the Stans as?
Iran eastern border?

All I know is we got all up in that region for the "war on terror"...
 

Rambo John J

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But the US could access a LOT of resources by annexing Canada. Why has that not been on the table? Last year Canada accounted for more than half of the US' oil imports, you're telling me there was not enough profit to be made in taking that over at any point in the last 75 years? I don't understand. Please explain.

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Don't shit where you eat.
 
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OK
Still got some real goodies over there

Where is the middle east border and what do you refer to the Stans as?
The Middle East is generally considered to be: Egypt, Israel and Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Bahrain, Turkey, Qatar and Lebanon.

most of the ”stans” Are in Central Asia. Pakistan and Afghanistan are usually considered southwest Asia.
 

Rambo John J

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The Middle East is generally considered to be: Egypt, Israel and Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Bahrain, Turkey, Qatar and Lebanon.

most of the ”stans” Are in Central Asia. Pakistan and Afghanistan are usually considered southwest Asia.
So Iran border it is.
Gotcha

I will leave the Stans out of it
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Don't shit where you eat.
Wait..... so is "War 101" "resources and profit are the reason for the process", or is War 101 "Don't shit where you eat"?

And how come they weren't worried about shitting where they ate, when the US government annexed Texas because of its resources? I'm so confused! Help me out here?

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Rambo John J

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Wait..... so is "War 101" "resources and profit are the reason for the process", or is War 101 "Don't shit where you eat"?

And how come they weren't worried about shitting where they ate, when the US government annexed Texas because of its resources? I'm so confused! Help me out here?

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You got me.
I'm stumped.
War isn't about resources or massive profits.
 

Filthy

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But the US could access a LOT of resources by annexing Canada. Why has that not been on the table? Last year Canada accounted for more than half of the US' oil imports, you're telling me there was not enough profit to be made in taking that over at any point in the last 75 years? I don't understand. Please explain.

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we don't need the parking.

yet.