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Qat

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Japan clearly was going to fight until the end. Their leadership hadn't even told the people their navy was destroyed, and at least one destroyer that limped home was quarantined and the sailors hidden away.
Women had been told Americans would rape and torture them, and they cast themselves off cliffs rather than surrender.
The bombs saved lives.
Sounds like straight out of a propaganda piece
 

FINGERS

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Imagine that in our school books
I can’t tbh.

but it’s like I’ve always said.

only 2 countries in the world make under 10s have to salute the flag and sing the anthem before they can start ‘learning’

NK and USA.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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I can’t tbh.

but it’s like I’ve always said.

only 2 countries in the world make under 10s have to salute the flag and sing the anthem before they can start ‘learning’

NK and USA.
my kids don't do that.

where do they have to do that?
 
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Japan clearly was going to fight until the end. Their leadership hadn't even told the people their navy was destroyed, and at least one destroyer that limped home was quarantined and the sailors hidden away.
Women had been told Americans would rape and torture them, and they cast themselves off cliffs rather than surrender.
The bombs saved lives.
America didn’t want to split Japan with the USSR. They also were hellbent on developing and using nukes first, before the Russians or their actual enemies. Look into it.
 

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America didn’t want to split Japan with the USSR. They also were hellbent on developing and using nukes first, before the Russians or their actual enemies. Look into it.
Yah. That changes the truth of 100% of not a thing I said. Look into it.
 

FINGERS

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my kids don't do that.

where do they have to do that?
You genuinely saying your childrens schools don’t start the day with the national anthem?

That is interesting. Obviously please don’t give details but what state is that?

Did a story about 2 years ago. Probably a bit more where that was mandatory in the states.

Weve even had recent discussions on here where the yanks were surprised we didn’t sing the national anthem at children’s sporting events like every where else in the world doesn’t do that.

Apart from international events like the Olympics etc.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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You genuinely saying your childrens schools don’t start the day with the national anthem?

That is interesting. Obviously please don’t give details but what state is that?

Did a story about 2 years ago. Probably a bit more where that was mandatory in the states.

Weve even had recent discussions on here where the yanks were surprised we didn’t sing the national anthem at children’s sporting events like every where else in the world doesn’t do that.

Apart from international events like the Olympics etc.
it's never mandatory. Kids always have the option to stand or sit and not participate.

my kids go to a charter school in AZ, but the school follows all the rules/policies of the local school district.
 

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Japan would've fought to the bitter end because of warrior cultural identity, in which surrender was traditionally unthinkable and suicide was preferable. Fact.

The Japanese people had been badly and intentionally misled about their war situation. Fact.

The bombs killed hundreds of thousands instead of further conflict killing millions. Fact.
 

FINGERS

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it's never mandatory. Kids always have the option to stand or sit and not participate.

my kids go to a charter school in AZ, but the school follows all the rules/policies of the local school district.

I can see where the peer pressure may come from though.

But I think their school sounds progressive. Like you always come across.

Please don't mistake me as someone that thinks having pride in your country is wrong. It isn't.

But I was talking in the wider sense of America where the school day does start every day in the anthem. The flag.

Its a bit like forcing a religion in them at such a young age.

I went to a Catholic school. And looking back some of the stuff stilts rather than opens minds.
 
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Japan would've fought to the bitter end because of warrior cultural identity, in which surrender was traditionally unthinkable and suicide was preferable. Fact.

The Japanese people had been badly and intentionally misled about their war situation. Fact.

The bombs killed hundreds of thousands instead of millions. Fact.
Define “the bitter end.” Every male in Japan would have fought till they died? You’re also confusing imperial Japans need to “save face” for a highly touted but mythical “bushido.” Japan was on the ropes punch drunk like Germany was when they were pushed back to their own territory. They had already lost. The United States made the decision to use the nukes to end it before Stalin had a chance to move in, they made the determination that was the biggest risk of a traditional invasion of Japan, not the amount of American lives that would have been lost. It’s documented.

The Japanese were clearly formidable soldiers but you’re drinking the kool aid a bit too deeply.
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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You genuinely saying your childrens schools don’t start the day with the national anthem?

That is interesting. Obviously please don’t give details but what state is that?

Did a story about 2 years ago. Probably a bit more where that was mandatory in the states.

Weve even had recent discussions on here where the yanks were surprised we didn’t sing the national anthem at children’s sporting events like every where else in the world doesn’t do that.

Apart from international events like the Olympics etc.
Worked in a school district for 7 years and have never heard the national anthem played
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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Define “the bitter end.” Every male in Japan would have fought till they died? You’re also confusing imperial Japans need to “save face” for a highly touted but mythical “bushido.” Japan was on the ropes punch drunk like Germany was when they were pushed back to their own territory. They had already lost. The United States made the decision to use the nukes to end it before Stalin had a chance to move in, they made the determination that was the biggest risk of a traditional invasion of Japan, not the amount of American lives that would have been lost. It’s documented.
yep. a ground war would have killed all the right Japanese, but left Japan split with Russia.