General Corona virus updates

[BeardOfKnowledge]

You are aware that people who are unvaccinated are now straining the American hospital system beyond its limits, and significantly impacting the care of vaccinated non-covid patients?

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I guess they should have used the last 20 months to improve capacity rather than hoping for a silver bulllet. We have a 70% vaccination rate, 80+% first dose vaccination rate here and our hospitals are still sounding the alarm about lack of capacity and urging that we not reopen further. At some point the industry of medicine needs to be held to account.

 

[Thuglife13]

It gets even better when you look at who liked the post.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

View: https://twitter.com/PastoraCovert/status/1436104091231416332?s=19


By design

Fact Check-Story about 27 U.S. Air Force pilots resigning over COVID-19 vaccine mandate comes from false news website

Fact Check-Story about 27 U.S. Air Force pilots resigning over COVID-19 vaccine mandate comes from false news website

Updating to include comment from Barksdale Air Force Base spokesperson, adjusting verdict to reflect this.

www.reuters.com

Joint Base Langley-Eustis confirmed to Reuters this claim was not true. “To date, no pilots from the 1st Fighter Wing have resigned their commission due to the COVID-19 vaccination mandate,” a Joint Base Langley-Eustis Public Affairs officer told Reuters via email on Sept. 10.

The article also claims 15 pilots of the 2nd Bomb Wing in Barksdale Louisiana ( www.barksdale.af.mil/ ) resigned. Reuters found no evidence to support this.

A spokesperson for Barksdale Air Force Base also told Reuters the story was “misinformation” and “completely false” and added that “no ultimatums were given and no pilots tendered their resignations.”

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Watching a bunch of folks just immediately jump to the worst possible conclusion was pretty funny.

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

I guess they should have used the last 20 months to improve capacity rather than hoping for a silver bulllet. We have a 70% vaccination rate, 80+% first dose vaccination rate here and our hospitals are still sounding the alarm about lack of capacity and urging that we not reopen further. At some point the industry of medicine needs to be held to account.

This is a once in a century event.

Does the entire right wing ecosystem that has spent the last 20 months denying the existence of the virus, then minimising it, then furiously attacking the entire medical establishment, as well as any and all guidelines for suppressing its spread (all of which is continuing, and continuing to kill hundreds of Americans every day) need to be held to account?

Because as long as millions of people hold being a selfish, conspiracy-driven prick as a point of pride, then this virus and the accompanying death toll is going nowhere Stateside.

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[John Lee Pettimore]

Fact Check-Story about 27 U.S. Air Force pilots resigning over COVID-19 vaccine mandate comes from false news website

Fact Check-Story about 27 U.S. Air Force pilots resigning over COVID-19 vaccine mandate comes from false news website

Updating to include comment from Barksdale Air Force Base spokesperson, adjusting verdict to reflect this.

www.reuters.com

Joint Base Langley-Eustis confirmed to Reuters this claim was not true. “To date, no pilots from the 1st Fighter Wing have resigned their commission due to the COVID-19 vaccination mandate,” a Joint Base Langley-Eustis Public Affairs officer told Reuters via email on Sept. 10.

The article also claims 15 pilots of the 2nd Bomb Wing in Barksdale Louisiana ( www.barksdale.af.mil/ ) resigned. Reuters found no evidence to support this.

A spokesperson for Barksdale Air Force Base also told Reuters the story was “misinformation” and “completely false” and added that “no ultimatums were given and no pilots tendered their resignations.”

Oh look.

Sparkuri posting lying garbage - again.

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[BeardOfKnowledge]

This is a once in a century event.

Maybe, maybe not. It isn't the first pandemic I've lived through and I'm not that old. It's just been the biggest. After the last one the medical industry was warned this would happen. Unfortunately preparing for a pandemic cuts into your bottom line quite a bit, and we certainly can't be having that.

Does the entire right wing ecosystem that has spent the last 20 months denying the existence of the virus, then minimising it, then furiously attacking the entire medical establishment, as well as any and all guidelines for suppressing its spread (all of which is continuing, and continuing to kill hundreds of Americans every day) need to be held to account?

That was not unique to the "right wing ecosystem". But yes, I'm fine with public officials being held to account for their actions assuming due process and all that jazz.

Because as long as millions of people hold being a selfish, conspiracy-driven prick as a point of pride, then this virus and the accompanying death toll is going nowhere Stateside.

Then I guess the people taking their money for treatment better figure something out.

 

[member 3289]

I'm just glad you and the other former anti-vaxxer now support vaccine passports/waiting for vaccination thresholds before removing restrictions.

 

[Splinty]

How do you feel about those who have gained or possess Natural Immunity?
Do you feel strongly they should be Vaccinated

. In studies today it's also quite mixed and most of it suggests a shorter duration of protection and if not a shorter direction of protection, Even those studies show a highly heterogeneous outcome of antibody response. The reason that we recommend vaccination after infection regardless is that it gives a clearly defined elevation antibodies that's predictable. At this time it is cheaper for me to vaccinate than it is for me to check every single recovered person to figure out if they are one of the few people that ended up with a very significant antibody response...or one of the most that ended up with a lower than vaccination rate antibody response. In a great majority of recovered people you would test them find out that they are low and recommend vaccination anyways.

However for the topic of conversation regarding should that qualify you to be considered low risk for those around you? Absolutely. If you have a high enough antibody response get the hell on with it.

No. I think an antibody test should be as good as a vaccine certificate.

I actually have no problem with that and would view it just like titers for any other vaccination.

 

[SoupCan]

How do you think Denmark got to 80%?

In late May, the Danish government presented the passport app featuring a QR code and a green bar if the person has been vaccinated twice or recently tested negative. A paper version also was available. People either had to scan the code or flash it before entering an airport, a harbor, a train station, a hairdresser or an eatery.

Denmark, Where More Than 80% of People Are Vaccinated, Lifts All COVID-19 Restrictions

The Danish government no longer considers COVID-19 'a socially critical disease.'

time.com

. In studies today it's also quite mixed and most of it suggests a shorter duration of protection and if not a shorter direction of protection, Even those studies show a highly heterogeneous outcome of antibody response. The reason that we recommend vaccination after infection regardless is that it gives a clearly defined elevation antibodies that's predictable. At this time it is cheaper for me to vaccinate than it is for me to check every single recovered person to figure out if they are one of the few people that ended up with a very significant antibody response...or one of the most that ended up with a lower than vaccination rate antibody response. In a great majority of recovered people you would test them find out that they are low and recommend vaccination anyways.

However for the topic of conversation regarding should that qualify you to be considered low risk for those around you? Absolutely. If you have a high enough antibody response get the hell on with it.






I actually have no problem with that and would view it just like titers for any other vaccination.

Did you say titers?

 

[member 1013]

@sparkuri @Sound System @T-City Minister of Truth @Wintermute @Splinty

Canadian author Elaine Dewar’s book raises troubling questions about the origins of COVID-19

Elaine Dewar’s book On the Origin of the Deadliest Pandemic in 100 Years: An Investigation, casts a shadow over the wet market theory and points a finger at the Chinese government

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[SoupCan]

@Splinty person contracts covid maybe minor to mild symptoms doesn't require hospitalization what's your recommendation...

Asking for a uhhhh.... friend

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

@Splinty person contracts covid maybe minor to mild symptoms doesn't require hospitalization what's your recommendation...

Asking for a uhhhh.... friend

Did your friend get tested or just speculation?

 

[Rambo John J]

. In studies today it's also quite mixed and most of it suggests a shorter duration of protection and if not a shorter direction of protection, Even those studies show a highly heterogeneous outcome of antibody response. The reason that we recommend vaccination after infection regardless is that it gives a clearly defined elevation antibodies that's predictable. At this time it is cheaper for me to vaccinate than it is for me to check every single recovered person to figure out if they are one of the few people that ended up with a very significant antibody response...or one of the most that ended up with a lower than vaccination rate antibody response. In a great majority of recovered people you would test them find out that they are low and recommend vaccination anyways.

However for the topic of conversation regarding should that qualify you to be considered low risk for those around you? Absolutely. If you have a high enough antibody response get the hell on with it.






I actually have no problem with that and would view it just like titers for any other vaccination.

Thanks for the response

I posted a small study that showed vaccination decreased some aspects of natural immunity...probably 100 pages ago...If true I would think that would be a step backwards for that person and the goal of actual Herd Immunity

Also posted a study showing that people that had exposure to Sars-1 had aspects of immunity to C19...almost 20 years later and they still had the antibodies going on

I think side effects from the vaccination should factor into the decision to vaccinate, and especially so for people with naturally gained immunity...I know you probably don't feel the same way about adverse reactions so no need to go into that any further...just stating my opinion and thinking

IMO antibody test should be done for almost anyone before getting vaccinated...I understand the logistics, cost, and time that would take make it a tough sell


I hope antibodies can enter the vaccination mandate discussion in a major way soon...I know a few doctors are suing for their antibodies to be recognized in order to not be required to vaccinate, I think one doctor recently won his lawsuit or whatever...So many Jobs and livelihoods on the line, I think we should be all up in that antibody science(for the sake of science)

 

[member 1013]

@Splinty person contracts covid maybe minor to mild symptoms doesn't require hospitalization what's your recommendation...

Asking for a uhhhh.... friend

That they get tested

 

[SoupCan]

Did your friend get tested or just speculation?

Confirmed that she shared a drink with the person who tested positive thrusday, she worked with my wife Friday allday and was getting tested this morning

 

[Rambo John J]

I'm just glad you and the other former anti-vaxxer now support vaccine passports/waiting for vaccination thresholds before removing restrictions.

We have high Vaxx rate here...restrictions aren't going anywhere

Restrictions in the USA are more political than science driven, you know this

 

[sparkuri]

Im not worried about the death of children from coronavirus in the classroom.

They aren't the only people involved here. And death isn't the only outcome.

More kids have died from the vax than corona, AND, "asymptomatic spread" is fuggin' BS, as proved well over a year ago in "peer-reviewed" publications.

I've listened to the compelling remarks of hundreds of virologists, pathologists, epidemiologists, scientists, general practice md's...the only ones that agree with your are MSM talking heads.

"Vaccinating" children with a science experiment full of graphene, luciferase & aborted fetal lung tissue, maybe even a pinch of swine dna, for a coronavirus that kills OR DAMAGES less children than lightning in a swimming pool while choking on chicken bones is a crime against humanity.
All of this is.

And I am talking to a wall that won't crumble for a decade.

"Asymptomatic" ...?


2020, the year pseudoscience became science.



This pandemic brought to you by the world economic forum, the numbers agenda 21 & Event 201, and the letters J-e-s-u-i-t.


If this place were Eskimos I could retire off a slurpee shop.

 

[Rambo John J]

@sparkuri @Sound System @T-City Minister of Truth @Wintermute @Splinty

Canadian author Elaine Dewar’s book raises troubling questions about the origins of COVID-19

Elaine Dewar’s book On the Origin of the Deadliest Pandemic in 100 Years: An Investigation, casts a shadow over the wet market theory and points a finger at the Chinese government

www.theglobeandmail.com

Don't ever tag me

 

[member 3289]

We have high Vaxx rate here...restrictions aren't going anywhere

Restrictions in the USA are more political than science driven, you know this

Derp

 

[Rambo John J]

That they get tested

My friend just told me Rona almost killed him

Said he had trouble breathing...for one day...then felt fine the next day

He was serious though about it almost killing him...Confusing conversation

He is 5 foot 3 180 lbs...brazillian...and former Judoka Olympian...Age 45?

He used to toss me around with judo trips and tosses all the time back in our youth

So I hope you get the point of this post now

 

[Rambo John J]

Derp

Thanks for the response

I took you off ignore for today because I needed to read some more of your good content

 

[SoupCan]

We have high Vaxx rate here...restrictions aren't going anywhere

Restrictions in the USA are more political than science driven, you know this

The problem is mistrust, government could be 100% sincere buy they lost the trust of the people that even though they are offering a potential life saving vaccine people still won't take it. I undertand where the mistrust is, especially considering Muricas last president and Justin

 

[Rambo John J]

The problem is mistrust, government could be 100% sincere buy they lost the trust of the people that even though they are offering a potential life saving vaccine people still won't take it. I undertand where the mistrust is, especially considering Muricas last president and Justin

Uhhh
There is no reason to trust the current president either my friend...He is one of the most consistent liars in political history

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE


Lied about His Education Biggly

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xX_2zxlrL8

 

[Rambo John J]

Check out this Biatch..."WE need to be more scary'..."WE need to tell people that aren't vaccinated they are gonna die"

Whatta Cunt

BUSTED! Doctor And Hospital Staff Scheme On How To Inflate COVID Numbers And Scare Non-Vaxxed Into Thinking They Are Going To Die

A leaked Zoom call by a doctor and staff at a North Carolina hospital showing the scheming behind the scenes to inflate COVID numbers and scare the unvaccinated has gone viral. Novant Health New Hanover Regional Medical Center has issued a statement after a video of an internal discussion on...

vidmax.com