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Lukewarm Carl

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Check out this Biatch..."WE need to be more scary'..."WE need to tell people that aren't vaccinated they are gonna die"

Whatta Cunt

I haven't listened so I don't know the context and won't really delve into that...

I do know that area and am very familiar with the locals. They're some of the weirdest, dumbest, kindest people I've ever been around.

I personally know several people there that thought that the virus was a complete "hoax." Not just being blown out of proportion. Full blown make believe.

Until someone they knew died from it it was still a hoax. Then it was real but blown out of proportion. Then all of them got it and a couple had very bad experiences that are still affecting them.


Now some are scared shitless but a few still aren't sure.


My anecdotal point being that if you don't hit some of the people in that area with a sledgehammer they won't pay attention.
 

Rambo John J

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I haven't listened so I don't know the context and won't really delve into that...

I do know that area and am very familiar with the locals. They're some of the weirdest, dumbest, kindest people I've ever been around.

I personally know several people there that thought that the virus was a complete "hoax." Not just being blown out of proportion. Full blown make believe.

Until someone they knew died from it it was still a hoax. Then it was real but blown out of proportion. Then all of them got it and a couple had very bad experiences that are still effecting them.


Now some are scared shitless but a few still aren't sure.


My anecdotal point being that if you don't hit some of the people in that area with a sledgehammer they won't pay attention.
Interesting...I still don't think it is a good reason to fear monger or outright lie

It is a 2 min video and they really do seem "dumb"

They are discussing the numbers they release for their hospital.

Main takeaways are them saying "WE need to be more scary'..."WE need to tell people that aren't vaccinated they are gonna die"
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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No and no
Now, I want to preface anything I say here with "My municipal/provincial rules might be different from yours" Where I am a close contact of someone who's covid positive is required to get tested if they haven't been vaccinated whether or not they have symptoms and are required to quarantine until they get a negative result back. Anyone who lives in the household who was not been vaccinated is also required to quarantine until that person's test comes back as a negative. That being said, I don't know what your wife's workplace is like and whether or not her and a co-worker are considered to be close contacts. If you're vaccinated you don't have to do anything unless you have symptoms.

But I'm just some dude on an MMA forum I'm sure your local public health unit has published guidelines.
 

SoupCan

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Now, I want to preface anything I say here with "My municipal/provincial rules might be different from yours" Where I am a close contact of someone who's covid positive is required to get tested if they haven't been vaccinated whether or not they have symptoms and are required to quarantine until they get a negative result back. Anyone who lives in the household who was not been vaccinated is also required to quarantine until that person's test comes back as a negative. That being said, I don't know what your wife's workplace is like and whether or not her and a co-worker are considered to be close contacts. If you're vaccinated you don't have to do anything unless you have symptoms.

But I'm just some dude on an MMA forum I'm sure your local public health unit has published guidelines.
But I know it comes from a good place, I love you

Also leads head over to the Canada politics thread, @Lars needs us
 

Lukewarm Carl

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Interesting...I still don't think it is a good reason to fear monger or outright lie

It is a 2 min video and they really do seem "dumb"

They are discussing the numbers they release for their hospital.

Main takeaways are them saying "WE need to be more scary'..."WE need to tell people that aren't vaccinated they are gonna die"
(I'm just not at a place where I can listen to a video or I would)


I'm never in favor of lying. I can understand a doctor or hospital trying to use fear, or just about anything, if it they genuinely think it would help save people from unnecessary, potentially severe, illness or death. I don't agree with it... But I do understand it.
 

sparkuri

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Didn't even read.
You're duped by a Twitter of a TikTok of a guy stating F-22 pilots all quit and China created the virus to make exactly that happen.

I can't trust your bullshit meter.
Only tik tokker I know is you lol.
And I've been banned from Twitter for months.
I don't have instagram, or FB, or any social media, or cable TV.

This place you reside in is called an "echo chamber".
 

Splinty

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Only tik tokker I know is you lol.
And I've been banned from Twitter for months.
I don't have instagram, or FB, or any social media, or cable TV.

This place you reside in is called an "echo chamber".

12 F-22 pilots quit upon the military mandating vaccines!!!


 

Shinkicker

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Interesting...I still don't think it is a good reason to fear monger or outright lie

It is a 2 min video and they really do seem "dumb"

They are discussing the numbers they release for their hospital.

Main takeaways are them saying "WE need to be more scary'..."WE need to tell people that aren't vaccinated they are gonna die"
If they are the kind of people that Lukewarm Carl @Willthiswork describes, I know these kind.
That was poorly articulated but valid. The numbers the hospitals are reporting are for the purpose of knowing what capacity and resources are being used related to covid. I've had patients that no longer test positive but need just as many resources for care. That's still a covid related patient. They should be included in their numbers. I agree with the doctor.

People have a right to know how bad it really is out there.
 

Rambo John J

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People have a right to know how bad it really is out there.
Not if exaggeration or lying is involved

That doesn't earn trust or sway anybody



She literally said "we need to tell people that if they aren't vaccinated they will die".

I truly hope you don't support that
 

Shinkicker

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Not if exaggeration or lying is involved

That doesn't earn trust or sway anybody



She literally said "we need to tell people that if they aren't vaccinated they will die".

I truly hope you don't support that
I might have said it when I was seeing people dying. Hell, I was saying much scary things the first go around. It much be so much worse on those in healthcare now that know that most of the suffering could easily be prevented.

I remember being told a theory that this Rona was like HIV or Herpes. Once you get it, it never goes away and can 'flare up' or cause problems for the rest of your life. And I warned people about that.

Oops.
 

Rambo John J

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I might have said it when I was seeing people dying. Hell, I was saying much scary things the first go around. It much be so much worse on those in healthcare now that know that most of the suffering could easily be prevented.

I remember being told a theory that this Rona was like HIV or Herpes. Once you get it, it never goes away and can 'flare up' or cause problems for the rest of your life. And I warned people about that.

Oops.
I just can't get into any fear mongering...that doesn't do the healthy or the sick any good

Healthcare isn't an easy job, you sign up to treat people who are in a bad way


Threats, fear, and Coercion simply aren't a tactic that healthcare professionals should engage in... and that is what those people in the video are discussing
 

Shinkicker

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I just can't get into any fear mongering...that doesn't do the healthy or the sick any good

Healthcare isn't an easy job, you sign up to treat people who are in a bad way


Threats, fear, and Coercion simply aren't a tactic that healthcare professionals should engage in... and that is what those people in the video are discussing
They have worked for me plenty.
 

Shinkicker

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Threats, fear, and Coercion simply aren't a tactic that healthcare professionals should engage in... and that is what those people in the video are discussing
I was just thinking.....I use all three of those things regularly. With my kids and my patients. Lol

If you don't stop being aggressive we will have to strap you down.

If you don't start taking care of that wound on your foot they are going to have to take it off.

Do you want that second pudding with lunch? Then take this medicine for me.
 

Rambo John J

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I was just thinking.....I use all three of those things regularly. With my kids and my patients. Lol

If you don't stop being aggressive we will have to strap you down.

If you don't start taking care of that wound on your foot they are going to have to take it off.

Do you want that second pudding with lunch? Then take this medicine for me.
I don't doubt it, those certainly have their place

I meant towards healthy people not in your care, they were literally talking about ways to scare the public and mislead them with medical advice and falsehoods.



With Kids it can backfire of course...works on some but some will remember it and rebel into adulthood
 

Freeloading Rusty

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(I'm just not at a place where I can listen to a video or I would)


I'm never in favor of lying. I can understand a doctor or hospital trying to use fear, or just about anything, if it they genuinely think it would help save people from unnecessary, potentially severe, illness or death. I don't agree with it... But I do understand it.
They’re referring to those still in the hospital post Covid with long haul symptoms… it’s not as dubious as some are making it out to be.