I was mostly just making a throw away joke, but I also think we just stumbled across why patient capacity is still lacking during this 4th wave of covid.
So fire all the ones that object?
Do you realize the sheer number of experienced and qualified healthcare professionals you are talking about?
Doesn't make a lick of sense sir.
If you feel sick stay home...problem solved.
Frequently testing the unvaccinated and not the vaccinated? What bizarro science world are we in?
What are you basing this statement on? I thought that with Delta vaccination didn't make a difference.
I'll pull the study again in a little bit. Voice typing in trying to eat while I run back to the hospital on my post call day.
Peak viral loads are the same but decrease faster in the vaccinated.
I should have said likely transmissible for a shorter period of time but since we've been using both viral load on the original strain as well as viral load peaking to justify increase transmissibility of the delta it seems the continued common standard.
No difference in the hepatitis B or flu shots or TB tests that they already take.
Zero sympathy. There's nothing new here other than politics.
I'm not worried about the studies, I'm happy to take your word for it, I was just looking for clarification as I've heard many different stories about spread by vaccinated people. Last I had heard from Dr Truth Science was that vaccination didn't impact spread when it came to Delta.
OK
I strongly disagree that it is nothing new
I wonder if he actually used those words. But you would have to decide what That phrase actually means. Vaccination absolutely impacts spread when it comes to Delta. Those with breakthrough infections initially have similar viral load and ability to spread.
A quick synopsis of some studies feel free to look at the main sources.
How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. But key questions remain.
www.nature.com
And one thing that all studies have been pretty consistent is that if you're vaccinated you're less likely to get infected in the first place. You can't get someone else infected if you don't get infected first.
So once again, a vaccinated labor deck will have less chance of someone working there having covid to spread than an unvaccinated labor deck.
I can't ignore this part, doc:I wonder if he actually used those words. But you would have to decide what That phrase actually means. Vaccination absolutely impacts spread when it comes to Delta. Those with breakthrough infections initially have similar viral load and ability to spread.
A quick synopsis of some studies feel free to look at the main sources.
How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. But key questions remain.
And one thing that all studies have been pretty consistent is that if you're vaccinated you're less likely to get infected in the first place. You can't get someone else infected if you don't get infected first.
So once again, a vaccinated labor deck will have less chance of someone working there having covid to spread than an unvaccinated labor deck.
I want nothing more than for you to be right so we can get this show back on the road, but the only brightspot they offered regarding delta was:
From what I understand it's also very difficult to get data on vaccinated people given they're less likely to be tested but I don't know all the details of that. As I said, I really want for you to be right, and that the chances of me catching it or spreading it to someone who can't be vaccinated are exceedingly low, but I'm not brimming with optimism.
What is the next catchphrase do you think you'll be parroting?
religious zealots?
Is that about a year out?
LOL @ "breathrough infections"
Good lord man
The pandemic was over mr. doctor, as all are after 18 months and a couple waves.
Now it's a pandemic of sheer ignorance, and physically the poison injected into the world.
Have you taken a d-dimer test recently?
The guy that just claimed masks are communism is talking about people parroting things?
What about the Bubonic plague? Pretty sure that lasted a long ass time.
No, because I understand pretest probability and the non-specificity of a d-dimer.
communism relates to means of production
the mask debate has nothing to do with means of production
and Biden is a corrupt corporatist to the bone
What is it you think we're experiencing since the "patriot" act, a freedom revolution?
You're right about Biden, but:
Mandatory masks do kind of fit into that "For the community" part.
Biden is a talking head, like Rachel Maddow or Neil Cavuto; he has ZERO power, none.
Yet you'll take a 42 cycle pcr test?
Sure. If I need an answer to clinical presentation. Not to contact tracing.
Again, predictive value, pretest probability, etc.
touche
but lets be real. the republican politicians are throwing out the word communism left and right as a synonym for "democratic policies" despite the fact that Biden is bought out by the same people that they are. So he is aligned with them in that sense. He just differs from them (albeit slightly) in terms of healthcare, climate change, and social issues
The Bubonic plague was not a coronavirus.
And btw, "science" literature still teach that plague was carried by lice feces on rats, despite publushed studies nearly a decade ago proving that false.
Now that's scientific integrity eh?
thanks for the rainbow. have one of your own. and good luck with everything. im out
But it doesn't give you an answer to clinical presentation.
It gives your administrators funding, that is the sole purpose of its use, as stated by its inventor.
In no way, shape or form does the test outline protocol.
But my question isn't to your patients presenting symptoms, it's to you specifically.
Are you aware of spike proteins causing microvascular coagulation not visible through other means eg ultrasound/cat, and only visible by d-dimer?
This with NO presentation?
Are you aware of the armed services drastic rise in concerning tests among the vaccinated?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sir, I was simply responding to your "All pandemics end in 18 months" claim. Nothing about coronavirus' or scientific integrity,