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Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others. The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after. Therefore, people who test positive should isolate for 5 days and, if asymptomatic at that time, they may leave isolation if they can continue to mask for 5 days to minimize the risk of infecting others.
 
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Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others. The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after. Therefore, people who test positive should isolate for 5 days and, if asymptomatic at that time, they may leave isolation if they can continue to mask for 5 days to minimize the risk of infecting others.
This makes sense. My brother is fully vaxxed and caught covid (likely omicron given the symptoms) and only had moderate symptoms for 3 days, mild for 5 days.
 
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40% of covid deaths are in nursing homes including both patients and staff. Those 5 did not cause 40% of covid deaths as is implied.


The 40% number is references several other times in 2020. I cannot find recent times that this number is cited.
It is likely that both through testing and attrition and broader population exposure, nursing homes do not make up that number any more.

I did find this article when trying to find out if somewhere like the midwest had different policies than early NY/NJ which I would expect given the significantly different timelines on surges...


Across the state and in Lansing, Michigan Republicans are pushing for an investigation into Whitmer’s handling of nursing home policy after a reporting scandal in New York, despite data indicating the same problems do not exist in Michigan.

On two different metrics, Michigan is slightly below the national average in regards to nursing home deaths: The death toll per 1,000 nursing home residents and the percentage of total COVID-19 deaths attributed to long-term care facilities. On the latter, about 31% of the state’s COVID-19 deaths are attributed to long-term care facilities compared to a national average of 34%.

Moreover, the policy that’s been widely criticized – telling nursing homes they had to accept COVID-positive patients – was never actually implemented here, an industry spokeswoman said.
 

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40% of covid deaths are in nursing homes including both patients and staff. Those 5 did not cause 40% of covid deaths as is implied.


The 40% number is references several other times in 2020. I cannot find recent times that this number is cited.
It is likely that both through testing and attrition and broader population exposure, nursing homes do not make up that number any more.

I did find this article when trying to find out if somewhere like the midwest had different policies than early NY/NJ which I would expect given the significantly different timelines on surges...

We sent many back to the nursing home from the ER if they didn't meet criteria for admission.
 
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We sent many back to the nursing home from the ER if they didn't meet criteria for admission.
Without knowing details hard to say if they is okay or not.

In michigan the controversy was over this:

What Michigan did do in spring 2020 was create a system of “hubs,” comprised of nursing homes that volunteered to take COVID-19 patients from other facilities who could not properly isolate them or patients leaving hospitals that needed a nursing home to go to. Those facilities were required to have total physical separation between the COVID and non-COVID patients and have separate staff attending to them.
It's hard for me to say that's a bad plan. COVID isolation homes to keep the hospitals from being overrun makes sense. They are physically separate with different staff.

Here most of our nursing homes had wings physically separated from others with no overlap in staff very early on. That wasn't mandated. It was just the way the nursing homes stayed open stratifying patients.
 

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Without knowing details hard to say if they is okay or not.

In michigan the controversy was over this:



It's hard for me to say that's a bad plan. COVID isolation homes to keep the hospitals from being overrun makes sense. They are physically separate with different staff.

Here most of our nursing homes had wings physically separated from others with no overlap in staff very early on. That wasn't mandated. It was just the way the nursing homes stayed open stratifying patients.
That happened eventually with ours, too.
 
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Probably just omicron.
Most every other map in the western world looks like that right now with vastly different policies between each.


Also lol at cases now being flipped as a metric to skewer policies when cases only matter In regards the hospitalizations and hospitalizations only really matter in regards to total resource ability.


It's also worth noting just how low those overall numbers are, even with the spike.



6000?


*Laughs in Texas*