CDC backs previous advice to back 5-day isolation; no test needed
Dr Anthony Fauci , in television interviews on Sunday said officials were considering asking people to get tested after a five-day quarantine - but that suggestion now appears to be dead in the water.
"What surge?"
Enjoy:
Just How Much Was 2020 an Outlier for Deaths?
Setting cause aside, death numbers were 'massive' compared with 2019
www.medpagetoday.com
A .00000001% chance of negative side effects is a concern for you?
I don't have the data to know if its good, but the data cited by CDC says that omicron has a shorter viral shedding period and that's the reason for the change. If that's true, then shortening the quarantine period and then just masking afterwards is exactly a good plan. Quarantine is individual lockdown. Like social lockdowns it has benefits and harms. Need to minimize those harms if they can't be justified.CDC backs previous advice to back 5-day isolation; no test needed
Dr Anthony Fauci , in television interviews on Sunday said officials were considering asking people to get tested after a five-day quarantine - but that suggestion now appears to be dead in the water.www.dailymail.co.uk
"What surge?"
nice editorial. with paywall sources.Enjoy:
Just How Much Was 2020 an Outlier for Deaths?
Setting cause aside, death numbers were 'massive' compared with 2019
did you read it?
Yes. It links to a JAMA study which states they found that 73% of excess deaths were covid, but deaths from all causes increased.
Primary source
@Filthy
jamanetwork.com
Discussion by the author
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@BeardOfKnowledge (Admin)
What's the take home here? Are you saying this supports that covid numbers are not under counted?
@Filthy
Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes in the US, March 2020 to January 2021
This study updates an analysis of US mortality in 2020, including deaths due to COVID-19 as well as all other causes.
Discussion by the author
Learning From Excess Pandemic Deaths
A comprehensive ability to anticipate and plan for future events distinguishes Homo sapiens from lower animals. But humans are flawed planners. Focusing on the near term has undoubtedly served humans well throughout evolutionary history, yet often leads to unintended consequences. Individuals eat...
@BeardOfKnowledge (Admin) What's the take home here? Are you saying this supports that covid numbers are not under counted?
My understanding was that the number of excess deaths in excess of the covid count is likely due to all causes of death increasing rather than just "Oh, it's all covid."Primary source
Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes in the US, March 2020 to January 2021
This study updates an analysis of US mortality in 2020, including deaths due to COVID-19 as well as all other causes.
Discussion by the author
Learning From Excess Pandemic Deaths
A comprehensive ability to anticipate and plan for future events distinguishes Homo sapiens from lower animals. But humans are flawed planners. Focusing on the near term has undoubtedly served humans well throughout evolutionary history, yet often leads to unintended consequences. Individuals eat...
What's the take home here? Are you saying this supports that covid numbers are not under counted?
Just so you know many in larger organizations think we are undercounting due to lack of testing.
Lets apply the 73% figure to the current modeling from the economist that uses CDC data and other larger organizations
United States
Mar 8th 2020-Dec 4rd 2021
covid 779,860
excess 1,029,960
73% That puts us around 750k within 4% of the actual number. So pretty in line with the model.
But here's where I'd caution application:
JAMA modeling was US, March 1, 2020, to January 2, 2021
Since that period there has been a significant change in lockdown, people's personal behaviors, willingness to return to medical care despite covid etc. Many of the things that drive increased non-covid excess deaths are not seeking ER care and skipping screening items. By the numbers that isn't happening at our hospital division anymore. And yet there are still more excess deaths in 2021 than covid reports and they go up with waves. Perhaps the waves themselves cause people to hunker down independent of actual rules. But 2021 with vaccines and rule changes seems are really different model from 2020.
I'm sure they do, but I haven't seen any data that supports it, and we know that people who show up dead are tested after the fact. So this idea that people are dropping dead in their homes, never seeking any medical care and that no one is bothering to look into their cause of death isn't really based on anything. Bear in mind, that George Floyd was killed on camera and then given a post mortem covid test.
I obviously can't speak with extensive knowledge of jurisdictions I'm unfamiliar with, but here in Ontario lockdown related overdose deaths were outpacing covid like 3 to 1 that last I checked. In addition, they've just cancelled all of our non-elective surgeries here again. So yes, we're going to see more excess deaths here which will again match the wave of new covid cases. My larger point is that the testing of people for covid is pretty robust for serious cases, and there are countless side effects of a pandemic. When people start overemphasizing how deadly something is when they have little to support it beyond pure speculation, what they're actually doing is just fear mongering. Fear mongering caused this pandemic go on in the manor it has far longer than it's needed to, and in large part due to it, we're 24 months on and we still have nothing that represents a coherent plan to put covid in the rear view.
I can't tell what you are worse at...
Reading comprehension or simple math.
Well we both know I suck at math, so that takes my vote.
Are you stating the risk of a serious side effects is higher than the risk of complications from the virus for children? Any stats on that?
Trump got mocked for a tiny desk while this goof has fake ass sets set up with a tiny desk and everything else being fake and lame...
View: https://twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1478100034117906438
View: https://twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1478100034117906438
Children have virtually zero risk from virus. While still very rare and long-term complications are still largely unknown, there are some risks with the vaccine.
Young people recover quickly from rare myocarditis side effect of COVID-19 vaccine
Research Highlights: Most adolescents and young adults with suspected myocarditis following a COVID-19 vaccination experience mild symptoms and rapid clinical recovery, though many had evidence of continued heart inflammation, according to a new study...
Been that way since almost the beginning
Used to bug me but then I just said Fuck it, whatever
Listen to JRE 1747 for more on this topic, Kids/Teens/Young Adults/Adults should not be getting injected with this crapola...and if they choose to they should be informed of the risks beforehand(they are not)Children have virtually zero risk from virus. While still very rare and long-term complications are still largely unknown, there are some risks with the vaccine.
Young people recover quickly from rare myocarditis side effect of COVID-19 vaccine
Research Highlights: Most adolescents and young adults with suspected myocarditis following a COVID-19 vaccination experience mild symptoms and rapid clinical recovery, though many had evidence of continued heart inflammation, according to a new study...newsroom.heart.org
Can you timestamp it?
Ain't nobody got time for a 3 hour podcast.
Yeah it annoys me as well, how many posters are only interested in having a little circle jerk with their Internet mates. High school bitchy girl gossipy drama bullshit, is what a lot of it comes off as to me.
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I have time for 3 hour pods
I can't timestamp it because I can't find a the full episode on youtube, only short clips
Basically the spike protein does damage to some people, whether from catching the virus or taking the vaccine...and the damage isn't nearly as rare as the media and sales pitch claims
I recommend a listen if you have a long drive or the time, early treatment(pre hospital) is where it is at, not this wait until your all fucked up and go to the hospital when it gets bad. Important stuff to know for those who are really fearful and shook by the possibility of catching a rona.
PS
Lets Go Brandon