General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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Sheepdog

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The reason I point that out is not because I think Trump did it on purpose by any stretch of the imagination. But this likely wouldn't be happening of Biden had lost the election.
It's an entirely accurate statement that this wouldn't have happened under Trump.

Being the fucking idiot that he was, he stocked his regime with pro-NATO, anti-Russian neocons while personally being anti-NATO and in favor of a better relationship, so his Russian policy was never coherent.

But the Ruskies at least knew he wasn't going to bring Ukraine into NATO.
 

SongExotic2

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The first thought that popped into my head was cutting the head off the snake. Take Putin out along with all his cronies. Or make him think that's the plan. But if you do kill him, I'm not sure what happens to fill that void.

Putin grabbing Crimea is oddly similar to Hitler grabbing Austria in 1938.

Putin invading Ukraine is oddly similar to Hitler invading Poland in 1939.

Had someone put a bullet in Hitler's brain in 1939, how many lives are ultimately spared?

If Putin wants territories of the old Soviet Union, he won't stop at Ukraine. And you can't reason with lunatics.
Hermann Goering was worse than Hitler. If Hitler died in 1939 it would've encouraged the Nazis to fight harder, I don't know if it would have gone on as long but it would have been chaos amplified.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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So why did he do it now and not in 2017?
Or 2018?
Or 2019?
Or 2020?

Biden comes off as weak. Putin isn't going to respect that.
It's the opposite. Biden wants to protect his interests in the area, Putin don't like that
 

Hauler

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Hermann Goering was worse than Hitler. If Hitler died in 1939 it would've encouraged the Nazis to fight harder, I don't know if it would have gone on as long but it would have been chaos amplified.
Goering would have gotten a bullet too. That's why I added "and his cronies". It can't just be Putin.

But I don't think they go there anyway.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Trump was an idiot and said all kinds of stupid shit. But he never came across as a pussy. If anything, he came across as a reactionary baby. His unpredictable nature likely kept Putin at bay.
i dont have nearly enough background or understanding to weigh in on putins decisions then or now

but ill respectfully disagree about trump. he came across to me as a much bigger pussy than bush and obama, or even biden
 

Hauler

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but ill respectfully disagree about trump. he came across to me as a much bigger pussy than bush and obama, or even biden
Trump is a bully. And bullies are usually pussies at the core. Plus he let the smallest digs bother the shit out of him.

So I'll give you that one.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Trump is a bully. And bullies are usually pussies at the core. Plus he let the smallest digs bother the shit out of him.

So I'll give you that one.
in terms of biden tho, i dont think viden is weak per se. definitely inept tho, which comes across as weak

but bidens scripted, stuttering speeches comes across as tougher than trump, since he bent over that one time and said he believed putin over US intelligence

you made a good point on his instablity tho. that may have been a factor
 

Qat

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Roughly said:

-A weakened nato (Trump)
-making internationally signed contracts/treaties meaningless (Trump)
-a weakened Europe (Trump, Brits)
-USA playing mafia over ns2 (both Dems and reps)
-Merkel gone, SPD in charge in Germany (we)
-Brits in total leadership crisis
-election in less than two months in France
-Corona & inflation weakening everybody

= Putin profit
 

La Paix

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Roughly said:

-A weakened nato (Trump)
-making internationally signed contracts/treaties meaningless (Trump)
-a weakened Europe (Trump, Brits)
-USA playing mafia over ns2 (both Dems and reps)
-Merkel gone, SPD in charge in Germany (we)
-Brits in total leadership crisis
-election in less than two months in France
-Corona & inflation weakening everybody

= Putin profit
I’ve been watching DW news on YouTube. They a solid resource?
 
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Roughly said:

-A weakened nato (Trump)
-making internationally signed contracts/treaties meaningless (Trump)
-a weakened Europe (Trump, Brits)
-USA playing mafia over ns2 (both Dems and reps)
-Merkel gone, SPD in charge in Germany (we)
-Brits in total leadership crisis
-election in less than two months in France
-Corona & inflation weakening everybody

= Putin profit
Didnt trump make NATO pay the 2% or whatever they were slacking on?

Cant see how this is all trumps fault lol
 

SongExotic2

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Roughly said:

-A weakened nato (Trump)
-making internationally signed contracts/treaties meaningless (Trump)
-a weakened Europe (Trump, Brits)
-USA playing mafia over ns2 (both Dems and reps)
-Merkel gone, SPD in charge in Germany (we)
-Brits in total leadership crisis
-election in less than two months in France
-Corona & inflation weakening everybody

= Putin profit
Roughly said:

-A weakened nato (Trump)
-making internationally signed contracts/treaties meaningless (Trump)
-a weakened Europe (Trump, Brits)
-USA playing mafia over ns2 (both Dems and reps)
-Merkel gone, SPD in charge in Germany (we)
-Brits in total leadership crisis
-election in less than two months in France
-Corona & inflation weakening everybody

= Putin profit
 

Qat

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Didnt trump make NATO pay the 2% or whatever they were slacking on?

Cant see how this is all trumps fault lol
When I write Trump I also mean his cronies like Bannon or Grenell.

Also this was just a rough take on why it's a convenient time for Putin, nothing else.