General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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Sheepdog

Sheepdog

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Qat said:
I'm not sure where are you are going with this. Please get to the point.

And yeah it's a significant number imo. But, you were ranting about ethnic cleansing and all that, what would the number matter then? Is it not to mention if it's just 5k? Is it a biggy with 100k?

As I said, dunno where you wanna go with this.
But you seem to wanna find something to be mad at me about. Whatever.
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The number of people identifying as Russians in Crimea only increased by 50,000 between 2001 and 2014 and this was significantly less than there were in 1989. There is no evidence that mass Russian immigration who moved there specifically 'to establish a Russian Crimea' happened even if you know of some cunt who did that. It has always been a Russian-majority area.

And if these immigrants don't have any real impact on anything related to the native Russian-Crimean population, then it makes no sense for you to be rambling about them. The actual problem is the forced re-integration of native Russian Crimeans back into Ukraine. At least if you were actually advocating ethnic cleansing of the whole population, rather than just some of the recent immigrants, you would have actually have had a coherent and very German solution.

I already made my point about Crimea. My next point was simply that you are talking complete bollocks.
 
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Sheepdog said:
The number of people identifying as Russians in Crimea only increased by 50,000 between 2001 and 2014 and this was significantly less than there were in 1989. There is no evidence that mass Russian immigration who moved there specifically 'to establish a Russian Crimea' happened even if you know of some cunt who did that. It has always been a Russian-majority area.

And if these immigrants don't have any real impact on anything related to the native Russian-Crimean population, then it makes no sense for you to be rambling about them. The actual problem is the forced re-integration of native Russian Crimeans back into Ukraine. At least if you were actually advocating ethnic cleansing of the whole population, rather than just some of the recent immigrants, you would have actually have had a coherent and very German solution.

I already made my point about Crimea. My next point was simply that you are talking complete bollocks.
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Dude I simply said it's unlikely Ukraine will want to keep some of the peepz. I didn't advocate for anything. Stop that bullshit.

Look at how many Ukrainians left Crimea after 2014, and how many Russians moved in. Then decide for yourself if those numbers are significant. But stop creating a narrative that I proposed some solution.
 
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Qat said:
Dude I simply said it's unlikely Ukraine will want to keep some of the peepz. I didn't advocate for anything. Stop that bullshit.

Look at how many Ukrainians left Crimea after 2014, and how many Russians moved in. Then decide for yourself if those numbers are significant. But stop creating a narrative that I proposed some solution.
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But would the solution be final?
 
Hauler

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gangsterkathryn said:
Total Wine pulled all Russian products, as well.
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In Florida, that might make a dent.

Most of Ohio drinks Natty Light or Busch Light. We only use Vodka in our orange juice, and it's usually from a giant plastic Popov bottle. - which is from ??
 
Sheepdog

Sheepdog

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Dec 1, 2015
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Qat said:
Dude I simply said it's unlikely Ukraine will want to keep some of the peepz. I didn't advocate for anything. Stop that bullshit.

Look at how many Ukrainians left Crimea after 2014, and how many Russians moved in. Then decide for yourself if those numbers are significant. But stop creating a narrative that I proposed some solution.
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It is true that the emigration of Ukrainians in 2014 increased the Russian majority further.

But it has always been a Russian-identified majority and the Ukrainian percentage has never been more than a quarter of the population. So the immigration factor is largely irrelevant to the issue.
 
gangsterkathryn

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Hauler said:
In Florida, that might make a dent.

Most of Ohio drinks Natty Light or Busch Light. We only use Vodka in our orange juice, and it's usually from a giant plastic Popov bottle. - which is from ??
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I saw it on their Facebook, so I don't think it's Florida only.
I don't know what people drink most often in Florida.
 
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Sheepdog said:
It is true that the emigration of Ukrainians in 2014 increased the Russian majority further.

But it has always been a Russian-identified majority and the Ukrainian percentage has never been more than a quarter of the population. So the immigration factor is largely irrelevant to the issue.
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Yea my roots are from Sevastopol and Odessa, still got family in both. Crimea never really considered itself part of Ukraine.
 
MMAHAWK

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Hauler said:
Ohio lays down the gauntlet. My local liquor store yanked Russian Standard Vodka off the shelves.

Take that, Putin!
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Removing bottles that Russia has already been paid for it quite the checkmate.
 
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Sheepdog said:
Ukrainian percentage has never been more than a quarter of the population
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That is not true.
"you are talking complete bollocks."

Go again and get us all relevant numbers, since apparently you didn't do it right yet.
 
RussfromNH

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This is not the same as it was in 2014
Eight years later, an embolden Putin is much stronger and a bit richer from record gas and oil exports.
Putin has been "in bed" with so many countries all stroking his ego. Who sits on 2 chairs of Putin owned energy companies? Even the US has been stroking Putin for quite some time. Who sold 20% of all American uranium to Putin?
Some leaders understand the real danger Putin represents, some are a generation removed from conflict but now they are all going to fight against what they helped create.
 
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