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"Despite the fact that I readily admit that I am uninformed about the situation, I'm going to make a knee jerk response to one particular aspect of the news regarding the situation, and vomit up my opinoin that tars an entire nation of with the same brush." -No. The only thing I knew before hand about Putin and Ukraine is him telling
Obama he intended to De Nazify Ukraine.Then I woke up to all these reports of
racial discrimination by Ukraine at their evacuations points.
I cannot and will not support that shit.
This is like being chased by a gang of dudes looking to smash you up and when you get to a house to hide in they lock you out then you blame the ones inside for the horrors to come. Am I missing something?
As an army member I've got so many air force jokes right now.I didn’ t know fighter pilots could be fat and unhealthy:
What do you call it when somebody paints an entire group of people based on the actions of a few? The atrocious behaviour at the borders is just that but you should realize the team you now want to support is looking like they want to wipe out whoever gets in their way regardless of what they look like.Don't need to look much further when I see racial discrimination at Ukraine evacuation points.
Thats enough for me to withdraw empathy and no longer care.
It tells me given the reverse roles and if it were myself or my family in that situation
they wouldn't give a fuck about us. So why the fuck would I care about them??
More blame to the people preventing specific groups from fleeing then it is on the ones causing the damage. I don’t understand.Thats the reports That I'm seeing in a nutshell
This is like being chased by a gang of dudes looking to smash you up and when you get to a house to hide in they lock you out then you blame the ones inside for the horrors to come. Am I missing something?
Fair...point notedI ain't mad if that makes you want to say "fuck Ukraine" but it seems weird to swing to supporting Putin given the history.
Also after Putin strawmen about Nazis with Obama he invaded Crimea and further expelled and rounded up the local tatars.
The soviets we're considerably more interested in a multicultural society with their global conquests than Putin is.
I’m still reading up on their history but I’m under the impression they don’t represent anywhere near the majority of the country. Like at all.Thats the reports That I'm seeing in a nutshell
Fair...point noted
However Ukraine's own National Guard has white supremacist division known as Azov
Why would I ever feel any sympathy when they hate my very existence?
Fuck em
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"Despite the fact that I readily admit that I am uninformed about the situation, I'm going to make a knee jerk response to one particular aspect of the news regarding the situation, and vomit up my opinoin that tars an entire nation of with the same brush." -@Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $
Its a long history and I don't expect you to feel sympathy. But you are just scratching the very surface of why they are there and how influential they are systematically. Also if they are being marginalized or not and who is trying to marginalize those figures.However Ukraine's own National Guard has white supremacist division known as Azov
Why would I ever feel any sympathy when they hate my very existence?
According to Wikipedia, the Ukranian military comprises 215,000 personnel.I’m still reading up on their history but I’m under the impression they don’t represent anywhere near the majority of the country. Like at all.
My only criticism is that nobody is doing the belly laugh pose of the big cossack in red with the white hat. I would have thought that was most obvious one to do.I’m not, I think you’re funny.View attachment 62560
You don't have a government sanctioned part of the military unless you have a reasonable amount of pull. It's only the last 3 or 4 weeks that their influence has become a debated point.I’m still reading up on their history but I’m under the impression they don’t represent anywhere near the majority of the country. Like at all.
It’s funny because they follow a Jewish President, Prime Minister and Defence ministerThats the reports That I'm seeing in a nutshell
Fair...point noted
However Ukraine's own National Guard has white supremacist division known as Azov
Why would I ever feel any sympathy when they hate my very existence?
Fuck em
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The numerous reports of discrimination certainly do appear to be real, and I think it's disgusting behaviour same as you do.Not knee jer. The reports of racial discrimination at Ukraine evacuation points
is all over my damn news feed with with video proof.
Thats plenty reason for me to say fuck em.
They got official status because they refused to surrender and fought on in 2014 when the Ukrainian army ran away. They have no “pull.”You don't have a government sanctioned part of the military unless you have a reasonable amount of pull. It's only the last 3 or 4 weeks that their influence has become a debated point.
They've gone from marching in something analogous to confederate kkk hybrid celebrations to being condemned by the president publicly and winning zero parliment seats.
Eastern Europe all the way to the Pacific ocean has a huge racism problem and Ukraine simply has a formalized apparatus due to their history. That piece will come back with destabilizing that is going on or continue to be marginalized at the request of NATO/EU as a prerequisite for membership if the recent democratic changes hold.
They've gone from marching in something analogous to confederate kkk hybrid celebrations to being condemned by the president publicly and winning zero parliment seats.I’m still reading up on their history but I’m under the impression they don’t represent anywhere near the majority of the country. Like at all.
Ukrainian border guard - “If you’re coloured you’re not getting through without getting beat down” = Racism. Fully agree and intolerable.Not knee jer. The reports of racial discrimination at Ukraine evacuation points
is all over my damn news feed with with video proof.
Thats plenty reason for me to say fuck em.
Well they lost me at "racist". I have no desire to, nor will I ever waste my time trying toIts a long history and I don't expect you to feel sympathy. But you are just scratching the very surface of why they are there and how influential they are systematically. Also if they are being marginalized or not and who is trying to marginalize those figures.
I don't understand how you could possibly write that, look at it and think "This makes sense."They got official status because they refused to surrender and fought on in 2014 when the Ukrainian army ran away. They have no “pull.”
"Them" meaning the racists?Well they lost me at "racist". I have no desire to, nor will I ever waste my time trying to
research and ferret out the varioius factions and inner workings of racists in order to come
up with a reason as to why I should give a fuck about them.
They made it pretty simple. They did. Not me
They explicitly state they hate my very existence because of my skin color.
To that I say fuck every last one of them.