General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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NotBanjaxo

NotBanjaxo

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Sheepdog said:
Of course. It is a Russian propaganda account and should be treated with high levels of suspicion.

High levels of suspicion that you and others in this thread do no apply to the Ukrainian propaganda accounts you post.
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Just in case I am part of the "others" you refer to, I've stated this before, but for the avoidance of doubt I'll repeat:

Both sides are spewing out propaganda at an alarming rate. It would get rather tedious to post "allegedly", "supposedly", "unconfirmed" or "possibly faked" on everything I post here.

I don't automatically believe the statements and videos from Ukranian sources - which make up the vast majority of things that I post or read on this thread - are true.

There are obvious things like the "Ghost of Kyiv" which are completely fake and have been invented to lift the spirits of the people of Ukraine. There are also the Ukranian military's casualty figures which are very obviously inflated for the same reason.

Having said all that, I unashamedly support the Ukraine in this conflict, so I will tend to post very much pro Ukrainian content here.
 
Sheepdog

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Nuk Soo Kow said:
Doesn’t a big part of the collective resistance about denying these demands revolve around shutting down “rights by might”? From all I’ve read so far there’s been no serious negotiations whatsoever. Having meetings to just reconfirm your demands isn’t any sort of effort to compromise. Officially giving up Crimea and then portions of the east would just tell Putin that his methods are effective and I’d expect him to continue to munch his way I’m which ever direction he feels necessary.
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Crimea is already lost. It's a small price to pay for peace, if people were serious about peace (which, of course, they're not).

Putin's military has proven incapable of posing any threat to NATO and Europe, so there is no need to be concerned that it will embolden him.
 
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kaladin stormblessed

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
The only difference is what side you're on, if you decide to choose one. Ukraine is using this "morale boost" to ask foreigners to travel there to kill Russians.
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thats a narrow view of morale. what about the men, women, and children scared shitless in bomb shelters for the last two weeks, hearing gunshots and explosions and seeing news such as splintys convoy

they are living in fear. and sometimes, ignorance is bliss

the ghost of kyiv presumably helped lessen the pain of some people's days
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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kaladin stormblessed said:
thats a narrow view of morale. what about the men, women, and children scared shitless in bomb shelters for the last two weeks, hearing gunshots and explosions and seeing news such as splintys convoy

they are living in fear. and sometimes, ignorance is bliss

the ghost of kyiv presumably helped lessen the pain of some people's days
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The women and children should have been evacuated by their government at the outset. The men are there by the end of a gun barrel. There's no morality to be found in this war.
 
Zeph

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Sheepdog said:
But if nothing else, your reaction is a case study into cognitive dissonance. As soon as you were confronted with possible evidence that disrupts your worldview, you had to immediately allege that it is faked, even though your reasoning is fairly tenuous, using a diligent level of skepticism that you have not applied to potential Ukrainian propaganda.
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The irony.
 
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kaladin stormblessed

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
www.nbcnews.com

'Propaganda corridors': Ukraine rejects Russian offer to let civilians flee to Russia

“Our people won’t go to Belarus and to Russia,” Ukraine's vice prime minister said Monday, branding Moscow's unilateral announcement of humanitarian corridors “unacceptable.”
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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russia: hey there. how's my bomb taste?
ukraine: ugh, wtf. go away
russia: here's a free passage to my country. just don't say that the war is bad or else we will imprison you
beard: how come ukraine denied the corridor to russia and belarus?
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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kaladin stormblessed said:
russia: hey there. how's my bomb taste?
ukraine: ugh, wtf. go away
russia: here's a free passage to my country. just don't say that the war is bad or else we will imprison you
beard: how come ukraine denied the corridor to russia and belarus?
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No.

Beard: "That should be up to the individual."
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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K @kaladin stormblessed

If I were in a bomb shelter with a child I would do anything I had to for them to have safety. I'm certainly not going to keep them there over a piece of cloth. If other's want to, that's their call, but I have no idea how someone could sit idly by and just hope that their child isn't killed.
 
Sheepdog

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kaladin stormblessed said:
russia: hey there. how's my bomb taste?
ukraine: ugh, wtf. go away
russia: here's a free passage to my country. just don't say that the war is bad or else we will imprison you
beard: how come ukraine denied the corridor to russia and belarus?
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'Three of the six proposed routes led to either Russia or Belarus'

Where do you think the other 3 routes led to, bruv? Narnia?
 
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