General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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The US is beginning to realize it's lack of power. NATO is looking like a paper tiger to the global community despite the spin that we're getting(in the media). Like a junkie, the surrounding countries are hooked on the Russian oil. Lip service is all we'll get from these nations that we've been giving trillions in aid to over the years. Even our friends in Israel are making deals to get their people out. Too little, too late. Should have learned to play chess. Not a good look.
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FINGERS

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Ahh jeez. I've kind of been lucky and missed out on the war at work. Not today. They really did a number on the maternity hospital. I'd say there will lots more confirmed dead.

They hit 9 month pregnant women. Horrific stuff. I don't know maybe now is the time to up our help. Give them aircraft. Putin will level every city if he has too. Reduce it to rubble like in Grozney and Syria.

Cunt.
 
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It would be awful if they were targeted.
That isn't part of a winning strategy, it's just evil.
Look at Grozny and Aleppo, this is how the Russians operate. In fact they’ve been slightly “restrained” so far. They’re an artillery army. They shell and bomb and missile you into the Stone Age.
 
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It would be awful if they were targeted.
That isn't part of a winning strategy, it's just evil.
This is likely just a byproduct of Russia's military That continues to show in this war. It has not advanced beyond the stereotypes over 50 years ago. They basically have a lot of artillery and bodies for the meat grinder. If you don't have significant air assets with guided bombs and things like that, you're going to be stuck. Just shelling large areas. Even with sophisticated drones and checks and balances before opening fire, we still managed to put bombs on Afghan weddings. We still manage to accidentally hit adjacent buildings instead of the target. If you back up the technology decades There becomes a much higher amount of civilian deaths.
Russia is going to raze this country in ways we haven't seen in decades unless they're stopped or some other resolution comes.

I don't think Russia cares very much about civilian deaths at the top leadership level, but I also don't think that this is very intentional.
 
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Look at Grozny and Aleppo, this is how the Russians operate. In fact they’ve been slightly “restrained” so far. They’re an artillery army. They shell and bomb and missile you into the Stone Age.
Forgot about Chechnya . That's a good example of what's to come.
 

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Yah.

I have a lot of respect for the Russian people, who lost so many lives in WW2.
They threw men into battle just to win by sheer numbers.

But there's this side of things.
At some point I'll have to stop paying daily attention, it's so depressing.

I don't believe in a higher power but if such exists this would be a great time to drop in and say hi
 

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  • Andrey Kozyrev, a former foreign minister, laid out reasons Putin may have misjudged his invasion.
  • He claimed Putin had overestimated Russia's military, not realizing its budget had been embezzled.
  • Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been met with tough Ukrainian resistance.
A former Russian foreign minister claimed that widespread corruption was among the reasons for the Russian military's apparently poor performance in the invasion of Ukraine.

In a Twitter thread over the weekend, Andrey Kozyrev, who served as the foreign minister under President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s, put forward what he said were misjudgments by President Vladimir Putin in ordering the invasion.

He suggested Putin had overestimated the Russian military — while Putin has dedicated billions of dollars to modernizing Russia's forces, this money, Kozyrev claimed, may have been lost to endemic corruption.

"The Kremlin spent the last 20 years trying to modernize its military. Much of that budget was stolen and spent on mega-yachts in Cyprus. But as a military advisor you cannot report that to the President. So they reported lies to him instead," Kozyrev wrote.

Cyprus has long been a favored destination for Russian officials seeking to launder money, and it was infamous for its "golden passport" scheme that until 2020 allowed rich foreigners to effectively buy European Union citizenship.

Transparency International has ranked Russia as one of the most corrupt countries, identifying a particular problem in its defense sector.

Polina Beliakova, an expert at Tufts University, wrote in Politico this week that rampant corruption meant Russian troops were going into battle in Ukraine with out-of-date rations, faulty equipment, and inadequate fuel supplies.

Western officials have said Putin expected the invasion of Ukraine to be swift. But the capital, Kyiv, is still in Ukrainian control, Russia has failed to establish air superiority, and casualties have mounted amid stiff Ukrainian resistance.

Kozyrev appeared to be reacting to speculation about Putin's state of mind before launching the invasion.

Some officials and commentators have suggested that there was no rational explanation for the invasion and that Putin's judgment may have been hampered by his long self-imposed isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic. Others wondered whether he was unhinged enough to launch nuclear weapons if cornered.

But Kozyrev, whose stint as foreign secretary came as Russia sought closer ties with the West after the collapse of the Soviet Union, said he believes Putin is a rational decision-maker whose poor assumptions led him into an error.

He said that Putin likely believed his own propaganda about Ukraine's nationhood, which Putin highlighted when seeking to justify the invasion.

Kozyrev also said Putin had underestimated the unity of the West, which responded to the attack with sanctions that have been crippling the Russian economy.

"So, in my opinion, he is rational. Given that he is rational, I strongly believe he will not intentionally use nuclear weapons against the West," Kozyrev said.
 
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What is a Trudeau out?

Sounds fun.
It’s when your country was already in the development program from day one and committed to buying the plane with an order filed but then JT comes in, cancels it for political points and then spends the next 7 years holding a fake procurement process because it’s the best plane for your needs but you don’t wanna admit it.