If Zelensky had the power you think he does, bruv, he wouldn't be forced to hand out awards to Nazis.Zelensky is gonna gas da juice -@Sheepdog
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i don’t think he has very much power at all… why are you being like this?
if Poland wasn’t in NATO and Russia invaded and it’s army collapsed some interesting folks would come out to play there too, that’s all I’m saying. I’ve never said Ukraine is a utopia I have said that it’s a corrupt developing democracy. I can still support the Ukrainians over Russia and post Zelensky memes.
Nobody is pretending that the Ruskies aren't bad too.
But people are pretending that Ukraine's celebration of its Banderite past doesn't make it a whole lot worse.
Also, what are 'Merica and 'Straya specifically?
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I’d say Russia’s celebration of its imperial and soviet past makes it worse actually. Killed and oppressed a lot more people, over a lot longer time. What’s up now u fuckin’ turkey?!
I was referring to 'worse' in regards to attitudes towards the juice.
I don't disagree that Russian imperialism is bad.
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Murica (2015 survey) is 10% and Stralya (2014 survey) is at 14%.
Ukraine is high at 46% but Poland is even higher at 48%.
Russia at 31% is extremely high given its population size.
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But imperial Russia was extremely antisemitic and killed and oppressed lots of juice over lots of time, more than the Banderas. And Russia glorifies and celebrates that. Let’s not get into a regime that banned religion and intellectuals.
also I’m gonna do something crazy here… part of the reason Russia isn’t overtly antisemitic is because of direct policy from Putin based on his many positive relationships with juice.
"You could have just surrendered, why are you making us invade you all the harder? Stop invading yourself!"
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Poland can be very not nice. A Jewish member here was yelled at by the locals in Auschwitz, denying the entire event.
Think of the Azov division as The Dirty Dozen, then it makes sense.
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He just really wants to tell a Jew about antisemitism and shame them for being a bad Jew.Think of the Azov division as The Dirty Dozen, then it makes sense.
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What exactly did they yell at you?
they said "florida sucks"
It's far more common to meet an Australian anti-semite than an actual Australian juice, which makes the anti-semites seem even more retarded. Literally jumping at some imagined enemy considering juice make up like 0.2% of the population here.
What does exist is thanks in large part to Keith Murdoch, another wonderful contribution his family has made to the world.
It says a lot about Zalensky's charisma that he was able to win an election so convincingly in a country where 46% of the population are prejudiced against him.
I have a feeling that those stats are some way off.
Anecdotal evidence incoming - I'm in Western Europe, and I know very few people who would give a toss whether someone is Jewish or not. Anti Muslim and anti black sentiment are way more prevalent round my way.
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do NOT get me started on British antisemitism
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Honestly I kind of think you’re antisemitic. Deny it all you want, that’s exactly what your type does. You won’t undermine me with your left-wing white-guy privilege.
Fite me
I know, bruv.
The reason I focus on Ukrainian anti-Semitism and not Russian is because it has been exploited by non-Ukrainians for geopolitical ends, which has had bad consequences for Ukrainians.
My argument is that whitewashing it doesn't help Ukraine, but hurts it.
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Only 11% in the UK, comparable to the US and Canada. I thought its proximity to the rest of Europe would make it higher than that.
Zalensky won 76% of the vote in the second round of the last Ukrainian presidential election. That's a lot of anti-Semites voting for a little jewish guy.
I'm not even sure how this became relevant.
@Sheepdog are you saying that Putin is justified in his invasion of Ukraine? Shame on you.
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You keep thinking I’m whitewashing it, but it’s too late to undo that right now and I can still support the Ukrainians against Putin. I’ve never liked Azov, despite how much you want to try and shame me into saying I do. And I do root for them (alongside the professional battalion of marines they are fighting with) against besiegers of a city. I know you think they’re trapping the residents there but I don’t.
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The fact you don’t know about it is antisemitic
everyone ITT is antisemitic but me and
@gangsterkathryn and
@FilthyI will try to compose a serious response
Again it's only my personal experience with those people I know, but that's more believable to me.
I'm not saying Putin is justified in invading Ukraine at all, I assume you are trolling, but I have to state that anyway.Only 11% in the UK, comparable to the US and Canada. I thought its proximity to the rest of Europe would make it higher than that.
Zalensky won 76% of the vote in the second round of the last Ukrainian presidential election. That's a lot of anti-Semites voting for a little jewish guy.
I'm not even sure how this became relevant.
But I also don't think propping up and glorifying the most extreme elements of Ukrainian society is justified either.
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Stop trying to say I prop up or glorify Azov u cunt