General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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BeardOfKnowledge

BeardOfKnowledge

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Lars said:
just because something isn’t to the scale of the Holocaust doesn’t mean it should be disregarded.
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It needs to always be front of mind when we have these discussions. We're not used to seeing it, but what's happening in the Ukraine right now as far as "war crimes" is pretty standard fare during a war.

Lars said:
donbas is a secondary goal he has reverted too after trying to topple the Ukrainian state and install a pro-Russian Regime backed by Russian troops allowing them to eliminate the “Ukrainian” element.
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I don't think it is. I think the goal was to try to attack and seize Kiev in order to force Ukraine to capitulate to their demands.

Lars said:
Even if he wants to expell non Russians from Donbas, that is ethnic cleansing, and when they don’t want to leave you have to kill them.
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That's very different from the wholesale Ukrainian genocide currently being sold, but you are correct regarding that one area.

Lars said:
no tactical nukes was as close to a line in the sand as NATO has drawn
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"Red lines" are crossed pretty often.

Lars said:
plus all the fallout goes back over Russia so it’s a last case option.
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As if anyone would be able to tell the difference.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge said:
It needs to always be front of mind when we have these discussions. We're not used to seeing it, but what's happening in the Ukraine right now as far as "war crimes" is pretty standard fare during a war.



I don't think it is. I think the goal was to try to attack and seize Kiev in order to force Ukraine to capitulate to their demands.



That's very different from the wholesale Ukrainian genocide currently being sold, but you are correct regarding that one area.



"Red lines" are crossed pretty often.



As if anyone would be able to tell the difference.
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Okay
 
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NATO chief: Alliance transforming to reflect ‘long-term consequences’ of Russian invasion

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in a new interview said the military alliance is transforming to reflect the “long-term consequences” of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, including a shif…
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Russia says it would have to 'rebalance' if Finland and Sweden join NATO

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday that if Finland and Sweden joined NATO then Russia would have to "rebalance the situation" with its own measures.
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According to Tim Ash, an emerging-markets strategist at Bluebay Asset Management, there will be no quick fix for Russia because sanctions are set to stay and no one will want to do business there.

“Putin has crossed the rubicon with his actions in Ukraine,” he said. “Russia will be in default for perhaps a decade. That means no access to international capital markets, very high costs of borrowing even from the Chinese, no investment, no growth, low living standards. It’s a terrible outlook for Russia and Russians.”
 
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BeardOfKnowledge said:
If Putin believes that the 2 areas (Donbas and Crimea) belong to Russia because they're largely ethnically Russian. It makes sense to say "Anyone who doesn't want to be Russian needs to get the fuck out."
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Hitler: Leave immediately and surrender your belongings to us, or get the camp.

Beard: This makes sense.
 
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