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Hauler

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I like it!


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However, the rules also set up a process to waive those requirements in case there are not enough domestic producers or the material costs too much
So...
Source it from wherever you want?

Typical. Headline policy. Zero teeth.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I like it!


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So...
Source it from wherever you want?

Typical. Headline policy. Zero teeth.
So you think they should halt all future projects if they run short on available American steel?

Also, why did you cut out the second half of the sentence you quoted?

However, the rules also set up a process to waive those requirements in case there are not enough domestic producers or the material costs too much, with the goal of issuing fewer waivers over time as U.S. manufacturing capacity increases.
And then of course there is this..

starting on May 14 "none of the funds" allocated to federal agencies for projects may be spent "unless all of the iron, steel, manufactured products, and construction materials used in the project are produced in the United States."
 
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Hauler

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So you think they should halt all future projects if they run short on available American steel?
If it's not available, it's not available - but having a "costs too much" clause in there means you might as well not mention "source American" at all.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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If it's not available, it's not available - but having a "costs too much" clause in there means you might as well not mention "source American" at all.
Maybe if this wasn’t also written into the bill.

"none of the funds" allocated to federal agencies for projects may be spent "unless all of the iron, steel, manufactured products, and construction materials used in the project are produced in the United States."
 

Hauler

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So you don’t think this will have any impact on American steel companies and manufacturing in America?
Not if you give developers a chance to make more money by sourcing cheaper (read as foreign) goods.
 

Hauler

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So you don’t think this will have any impact on American steel companies and manufacturing in America?
Developers will just make more money. When they bid the job, they'll use American sourced material for the price. Whoever is awarded the job will then go to source it. This bill says that it must be bought American unless it's 25% more expensive to do so. So they go to their foreign partners and tell them where they need to be.

So the taxpayers PAY for American-sourced materials, but that isn't what necessarily is used. The difference goes into the developer's pockets.

If you give greedy people a loophole, they'll exploit it.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Developers will just make more money. When they bid the job, they'll use American sourced material for the price. Whoever is awarded the job will then go to source it. This bill says that it must be bought American unless it's 25% more expensive to do so. So they go to their foreign partners and tell them where they need to be.

So the taxpayers PAY for American-sourced materials, but that isn't what necessarily is used. The difference goes into the developer's pockets.

If you give greedy people a loophole, they'll exploit it.
Seems this same logic could be used to explain the exception. Allow greedy American companies to take advantage during times of shortages and it’s the tax payer who loses out to inflated prices.
 

Hauler

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Seems this same logic could be used to explain the exception. Allow greedy American companies to take advantage during times of shortages and it’s the tax payer who loses out to inflated prices.
The prices will already be inflated because they are quoting it "Made In America". The clause allows it to be sourced overseas. So it's higher pricing with no real benefit.

It's a good start by his administration to encourage domestic sourcing, but they need to ratchet in the loopholes if they are going to have an impact.
 

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Florida bans selection of math text books for critical race theory reasons
On Friday, Florida Commissioner of Education Richard Corcoran announced that the state had rejected the math textbooks under the state's Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking (B.E.S.T.) standards.

"The approved list followed a thorough review of submissions at the Department, which found 41 percent of the submitted textbooks were impermissible with either Florida's new standards or contained prohibited topics – the most in Florida's history. Reasons for rejecting textbooks included references to Critical Race Theory (CRT), inclusions of Common Core, and the unsolicited addition of Social Emotional Learning (SEL) in mathematics," the department announced.
retarded. they didnt even say what was objectionable

CRT is taught at the graduate level, not even undergrad, let alone elementary school lol

they said "tenants of CRT" tho. i think that might be their way of saying "tenets of CRT"

so odds are, the math books had scary words like "black"

desantis is scum
 
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retarded. they didnt even say whay was objectionable

CRT is taught at graduate level, not even undergrad, let alone elementary school lol

they said tenants of CRT tho. i think that might be their way of saying "tenets of CRT"

so odds are, the math books had scary words like "black"

desantis is scum
they were all full of equal signs
 

John Lee Pettimore

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MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK - every time you put a drunk rating on a comment like that, all you're doing is saying "I don't want him to be right about this. I don't like the fact that Trumpism is a personality cult, but I have absolutely zero to challenge that statement with and I'm too much of a pussy to even try."

Don't be a little bitch dancing on the sidelines shaking your pom-poms and flashing your panties at anyone who defends Trump, without ever actually manning up and participating in the game yourself. Either throw your two cents in and be a part of the discussion, or fuck off. ?

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MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK - every time you put a drunk rating on a comment like that, all you're doing is saying "I don't want him to be right about this. I don't like the fact that Trumpism is a personality cult, but I have absolutely zero to challenge that statement with and I'm too much of a pussy to even try."

Don't be a little bitch dancing on the sidelines shaking your pom-poms and flashing your panties at anyone who defends Trump, without ever actually manning up and participating in the game yourself. Either throw your two cents in and be a part of the discussion, or fuck off. ?

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I commend you for trying with the moron, but I gave up after I point-blank asked him what he would do to stop the spread of covid without restrictions.

Guy literally had no answer. Nothing. Couldn't answer the question. Just started rattling off about how bad restrictions are.

I'd have at least respected a really stupid plan.
 

MMAHAWK

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MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK - every time you put a drunk rating on a comment like that, all you're doing is saying "I don't want him to be right about this. I don't like the fact that Trumpism is a personality cult, but I have absolutely zero to challenge that statement with and I'm too much of a pussy to even try."

Don't be a little bitch dancing on the sidelines shaking your pom-poms and flashing your panties at anyone who defends Trump, without ever actually manning up and participating in the game yourself. Either throw your two cents in and be a part of the discussion, or fuck off. ?

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I just know it bothers you
That is why I do it

Edit Go fuck off yourself