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Approve of federally-protected access to legal abortion being overturned?

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MMAHAWK

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what is semi-consciousness and is there research establishing 1st and second trimester fetuses have it?
Yeah I just watched video of my fetus niece born at 21 weeks playing soccer. If you kill a baby at 28 weeks I hope that person is hunted down.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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what is semi-consciousness and is there research establishing 1st and second trimester fetuses have it?
Second trimester fetuses are mostly able to survive outside of the womb. They're just medium rare as oppose to well done. Medicine is really amazing in some facets. A friend of mine had his daughter born at 4 months. She was tiny and brought to term in an incubator but once released from the hospital had no health issues at all.
 
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Second trimester fetuses are mostly able to survive outside of the womb. They're just medium rare as oppose to well done. Medicine is really amazing in some facets. A friend of mine had his daughter born at 4 months. She was tiny and brought to term in an incubator but once released from the hospital had no health issues at all.
i’m glad medicine helped her
 

FINGERS

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Yeah I just watched video of my fetus niece born at 21 weeks playing soccer. If you kill a baby at 28 weeks I hope that person is hunted down.
I could also mention a real life event that happened to us at 21 weeks which would have meant a still born baby and the possible death of my wife Without the life changing procedure we had to go through. We buried our baby.

I find a cunt (s ) that tries to stop that happening to my wife in my country and believe me I'm doing hard time for those idiot zealots.

I’d like them to make it easier and hang around outside the clinic with hate filled faces and hate filled signs.

Would make it a lot easier.

But would never happen over here as we are not dumb and religion is a hobby at best for Christians.
 

MMAHAWK

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I could also mention a real life event that happened to us at 21 weeks which would have meant a still born baby and the possible death of my wife Without the life changing procedure we had to go through. We buried our baby.

I find a cunt (s ) that tries to stop that happening to my wife in my country and believe me I'm doing hard time for those idiot zealots.

I’d like them to make it easier and hang around outside the clinic with hate filled faces and hate filled signs.

Would make it a lot easier.

But would never happen over here as we are not dumb and religion is a hobby at best for Christians.
You’ve already mentioned that plus the other one.
 
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I could also mention a real life event that happened to us at 21 weeks which would have meant a still born baby and the possible death of my wife Without the life changing procedure we had to go through. We buried our baby.

I find a cunt (s ) that tries to stop that happening to my wife in my country and believe me I'm doing hard time for those idiot zealots.

I’d like them to make it easier and hang around outside the clinic with hate filled faces and hate filled signs.

Would make it a lot easier.

But would never happen over here as we are not dumb and religion is a hobby at best for Christians.
i’m sorry that happened but i’m glad your wife is alright bruv
 

Filthy

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This is circular logic you're running now.
The supreme Court interprets the laws. Rights are granted by our creator and specified in the Constitution for our reading.
The supreme court interprets whether laws violate those rights or not.

In the case of Roe V wade the the unenumerated implied right of privacy in the Constitution to protect the individual against the state found that anti-abortion laws violated that right. The ninth makes it clear that I have rights well beyond those specified in the Bill of Rights. It clearly indicates the rights belong to the citizen as default. I don't have to wait for legislation to provide me that right.

I can point to any supreme Court decision that struck down a law on behalf of an unenumerated right and say "there's a legislative solution here". That's not how the system or rights work. The rights exist by default and the court determines if a law is in violation of those rights.

One does not need to go to the state to ask permission if they are allowed to perform an abortion. The state has to go to the court to ask permission if they are allowed to ban an abortion.
seems like you're blurring a line between Natural Rights and Legal Rights. I do think a "right to privacy" was attempted by the 3rd Amendment, but a real "Right to Privacy" constitutional amendment is the best answer.

for example: your creator doesn't grant you the right to vote when you turn 18. You have a right select your representatives, and the law/due process draws the line at 18 years old.

No one is disputing a "right to your body", the question is where the legal line is drawn that defines "your body". Now we have different jurisdictions drawing different lines, and some jurisdictions allowing some creative legislating around who gets to draw that line.

I just see the whole situation as a big political fireworks show. This election as referendum on "abortion" is going to play a lot better than a referendum on "foreign policy", "corruption/transparency", or "economic policy". You already hear people demanding that Biden pack the court and calls to end the filibuster.
 

FINGERS

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i’m sorry that happened but i’m glad your wife is alright bruv
Thats great and thanks. But if she lived under your laws in America there‘s a good chance she wouldn't be In the near future?

Can you see why I find it so backward in 2022?

Even if we hadn’t had such a period in our life I would still be able to empathise. This is real world stuff.

Can you imagine the trauma of being raped? Then told you had that persons baby inside you? Its just happened to 14 year old girls in Ukraine to drunken Russian soldiers who raped them constantly for a week.

You think thats Gods will? You think they should carry those baby's to term?

Fuck me. It’s like the Taliban in America with some of you people.
 
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Y'all became instantly weaponized

Just as planned
Have we reached the part of a controversial topic thread where you pretend to understand everything that's going on but only make cryptic (and poorly written) references to it?
 

FINGERS

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Have we reached the part of a controversial topic thread where you pretend to understand everything that's going on but only make cryptic (and poorly written) references to it?
We’re actually at the stage where he has tried to deflect this rather uncomfortable side of his beliefs.

He has used covid as misdirection. Again….

I’d just like to see how one of the zealots on here can justify state sponsored murder. The very pillar of their religion is forgiveness.

Its important to the discussion because they say abortion is murder. Yet they support the death penalty.

How can you square that?
 
M

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Thats great and thanks. But if she lived under your laws in America there‘s a good chance she wouldn't be In the near future?

Can you see why I find it so backward in 2022?

Even if we hadn’t had such a period in our life I would still be able to empathise. This is real world stuff.

Can you imagine the trauma of being raped? Then told you had that persons baby inside you? Its just happened to 14 year old girls in Ukraine to drunken Russian soldiers who raped them constantly for a week.

You think thats Gods will? You think they should carry those baby's to term?

Fuck me. It’s like the Taliban in America with some of you people.
i’m canadian bruv

i have a gay transgender feminist prime minister.
 

FINGERS

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i’m canadian bruv

i have a gay transgender feminist prime minister.
Lucky you.

We have a drunken stumblebum of a cunt who cosplays Churchill And tells our pensioners he gave them free bus passes so they can save heat costs by riding on busses throughout the day.

We win.

Again.
 
M

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Lucky you.

We have a drunken stumblebum of a cunt who cosplays Churchill And tells our pensioners he gave them free bus passes so they can save heat costs by riding on busses throughout the day.

We win.

Again.
they’re besties, and practically inseparable. i dare you to name a more inspiring duo.
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Rambo John J

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We’re actually at the stage where he has tried to deflect this rather uncomfortable side of his beliefs.

He has used covid as misdirection. Again….

I’d just like to see how one of the zealots on here can justify state sponsored murder. The very pillar of their religion is forgiveness.

Its important to the discussion because they say abortion is murder. Yet they support the death penalty.

How can you square that?
Show me where int he thread I have posted my beliefs or shamed someone for theirs?

I'm not religious, I'm not a zealot
I'm not left and I'm not right





Don't fall for CMNH's fake ass E-beef schtick bubba


and make no mistake, there is stuff in the Pfizer docs that would interest anybody that has been paying attention the last two years, has nothing to do with deflection...I haven't been involved in this thread so you are misguided when you project opinion, feelings, and anger on me...I'm not the droid you're looking for.
 

Rambo John J

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Have we reached the part of a controversial topic thread where you pretend to understand everything that's going on but only make cryptic (and poorly written) references to it?
I would bump it in the Rona thread but nobody would have the balls to honestly discuss the topic, especially you.

So politely just fuck the fuck off nutslugger
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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We’re actually at the stage where he has tried to deflect this rather uncomfortable side of his beliefs.

He has used covid as misdirection. Again….

I’d just like to see how one of the zealots on here can justify state sponsored murder. The very pillar of their religion is forgiveness.

Its important to the discussion because they say abortion is murder. Yet they support the death penalty.

How can you square that?
Do you remember when you agreed with my opinion on abortion and said “You make sense as always”?