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John Lee Pettimore

John Lee Pettimore

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Filthy said:
So no other differences? Just access to firearms?
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What makes you so damned unique, outside of the guns and the lack of basic healthcare?

You claim that American gun laws and gun culture are not in fact a massive, generations-spanning failure that has made your society worse for everybody.

Okay.

If the situation with guns and gun crime isn't a failure as it currently stands...... what would a failure look like, exactly?

Honestly?

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Splinty said:
Why doesn't Canada have our murder rate or suicide rate?

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Our economic inequality surely results in some severe mental health issues. And our health care system that leaves about 20 to 25% of the population out in the cold probably stops easy access to mental health services.
But at the end of the day we are only a few higher percent others in diagnosis of mental health disorders with similar incomes. And in fact, Canadians rate themselves with more emotional distress than we do.

So why aren't they killing themselves like we are?
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we only have 20 million registered guns
 
Filthy

Filthy

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Willthiswork said:
I didn't.

I said that I want some action for a change. I would love for it to be based around tending to the needs and offering mental health counselors to children and making therapy accessible via health insurance plans. (It's technically covered under many plans but they make it so difficult for the providers to adhere to the rules that many just can't accept it.)

But fucking hell... The govt needs to get off of it's collective damp ass and make an attempt at something that may help.

If the republicans want to cut funding from a lefty project then they should offer to put that money into youth counseling and offer up something that's relatively small, and in many ways being done, like deeper universal background checks or limiting how many firearms a person can buy in a month.

I've never had a NEED to buy 4 guns in a single month for self protection... So we could start small like that.

No single move is going to magically fix the issue but continuing to make zero moves will guarantee that's it's going to continue to happen over and over.

Action. Any possible positive action.
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Actions have consequences, most of which are unintended.

But I think protecting US energy businesses and Defense industry should be lower priorities than addressing our pathetic mental health infrastructure
 
Filthy

Filthy

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John Lee Pettimore said:
What makes you so damned unique, outside of the guns and the lack of basic healthcare?

You claim that American gun laws and gun culture are not in fact a massive, generations-spanning failure that has made your society worse for everybody.

Okay.

If the situation with guns and gun crime isn't a failure as it currently stands...... what would a failure look like, exactly?

Honestly?

??
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How's access to mental health care in Australia?
 
Filthy

Filthy

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John Lee Pettimore said:
It's difficult to answer uncomfortable questions honestly, isn't it.

It's okay mate. Nobody expects you to actually sack up, examine your beliefs and make an honest effort. ?

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I've gone over this, you keep moving goalposts when I point out your single-source fallacy
 
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Filthy said:
economic inequality and percentage of immigrant population (people less likely to avail themselves of social services, before you call me a right-wing xenophobe :) )

also, real cultural differences. we have so much masculinity it's toxic. They have very little. 90% of it is held by @BeardOfKnowledge
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lmao
 
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Filthy said:
I've gone over this, you keep moving goalposts when I point out your single-source fallacy
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you guys are whack, jack. you can feel the danger in the air when you cross da border. everyone wants to be in an action movie and to rambo you
 
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Splinty said:
What type of guns? What limitations? What does it take to get said guns?
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you have to write justin trudeau a nice letter in english AND french and if he is in a good mood he gives you a license. with that license you can buy up to three black powder muskets
 
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Lars said:
you have to write justin trudeau a nice letter in english AND french and if he is in a good mood he gives you a license. with that license you can buy up to three black powder muskets
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*Shoots @Lars*
 
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Splinty said:
What type of guns? What limitations? What does it take to get said guns?
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mostly long guns. we have two classes of firearms, unrestricted and restricted. Restricted have conditions like only being allowed to use on your property or a licensed range, they have to be stored and transported in a safe/lock box with a trigger lock. you have to do a 2 day course and pass a written exam, and then an RCMP background check to get the licenses. after that buying and selling is fairly easy.
 
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Lars said:
mostly long guns. we have two classes of firearms, unrestricted and restricted. Restricted have conditions like only being allowed to use on your property or a licensed range, they have to be stored and transported in a safe/lock box with a trigger lock. you have to do a 2 day course and pass a written exam, and then an RCMP background check to get the licenses. after that buying and selling is fairly easy.
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btw it was the worst ordeal i’ve ever been thru @Splinty
 
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