General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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MMAHAWK

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Sheepdog

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It's incredible that not only does this podunk piece of shit town have a SWAT team but it seems like it was even counter-productive.

You would think a few untrained, drunk redneck yokel Sheriffs deputies, which is all this town should have, would probably have been more likely to just run in there without even really thinking about it.

I think the 'tactical' approach just gave cover for collective cowardice (not saying I wouldn't have been one of those cowards).
 

Filthy

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Five years since Las Vegas.

Ten years since Sandy Hook.

Almost a quarter century since Columbine.

??
How many mass shootings (4 or more dead) of children (under 18) in that 25 years? How many <18 suicides?


We've had time to address the issue, but you're busy chasing an outlier with a non-starting non-solution.
 

Filthy

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Indeed it is.

Please watch the video.

A republican supreme judge said it.

Sew.....
45s in and he's already made the basic logical fallacy of proximity bias.

"we have a lot of guns and we have a lot of shootings so those are obviously related"

not even close to logical, about what I can expect from a talk show host.

...should I keep going?
 

sparkuri

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The problem is governance, not guns.

Parents use to teach their kids, the government has gone full leftist, created an environment of single parents, put themselves as arbiters of responsibility both with arms & pharmaceuticals, and made a small issue monumentally larger.

And as large and prevalent, and SHOCKING as these shootings are, they're still a drop in the bucket compared to the deaths the government is responsible for.

It's an easy solution.
Simply get kids off pharmaceuticals that are unnecessary, create a transparent & accountable government that puts families back together lowering emotional/psychological issues, implement community ideas regarding police respinses, limit government tyranny and liberty erosion, setup responsible firearms training, and toss out laws that inhibit freedoms gradually as progress is monitored through phases.

It's easy to think beta & REACT to fear & point a finger at a weapon, but it isn't educated freedom-oriented libertarians existing as a root cause.
This is fundamentally no different than a playground issue.
The school sports team doesn't shut down their program because Dante snapped his tibia during practice, they work the problem.
If school sports brought in no revenue, then the program would be shut down.

31 pharmaceutical are responsible for 80% of violence of any form according to the FDA's own database.
Top ten worst are:
-Chantix
-Paxil
-Lariam
-Halcion
-Effexor
-Prozac
- script Amphetamines
- Strattera
- Luvox &
-Pristiq

Now this is never at the crux of the issue because the CIA-run media are sponsored by them.
Follow the money, it's that simple.

The denial that reactors are in, literally a psychosis that the government is above-board and cares, is tragic.

If governments really cared about their people they wouldn't take kickbacks.
Africa wouldn't be starving & schools wouldn't be gun-free killzones
The pharma-free elite schools NEVER have these issues.
Any baseline security company could solve the problem, and good people governing would transform gun violence at schools to outliers.

Critical thought is critically low.
America's 1st and 2nd amendments are under attack & have been.
Those that don't grasp the implications of the war on 1 & 2a generally have no concept of their purposed intention or historical context.


Houston had a shooting some months ago where 3 officers were shot by one guy.
Trained shooters fires hundreds of rounds emptying magazing after magazine, and never even nicked the guy.
He surrendered several hours later unscathed.


View: https://youtu.be/yaQ-w4OS7bk


Just that one incident makes it clear that pulling extra bullets from citizens who WILL follow the law has nothing whatsoever to do with eradicating mass shootings.
The planned degradation of families & big pharmacy are the key contributors to this country's violent episodes.
Where are those MSNBC/CNN/Fox/ABC/NBC/CBS town halls?

An armed society is a polite society.
Mutually assured destruction works.
It is the backbone of military defense as it is for the little guy.
How this simple concept eludes the frontal lobe of the loudest of the overly opinionated is....special.
 

Filthy

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Indeed it is.

Please watch the video.

A republican supreme judge said it.

Sew.....

this is the same revisionist reading of the 2A that has been put forth by Progressives for decades.

you have to completely disregard all the laws and correspondence of the Founders to get to the conclusion that the 2A is not an enshrinement of the individual to keep and bear military arms.

"a welll-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state"

because the gov't needs a well-regulated militia

"the right of the people"

the individual, unless you can find a place in the US Constitution where "the people" doesn't refer to the collective of individuals, and is instead referring to the State...but then why draw the segregation of 'the State' in the first clause...

"to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

will not be obstructed in any way (without due process)

EDIT - FWIW, Cornell West makes a more approachable telling of that position, although it is just as easily debunked by an unbiased reading of Constitutional Law.
 

Filthy

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What would be the problem with people applying for a gun license and a background check being done?
innocent people die if they're under threat and can't access their Natural Right to self-defense.

"waiting periods" and "incorrect denials" impact women being threatened by violent men, too.
 
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"waiting periods" and "incorrect denials" impact women being threatened by violent men, too
Not at any appreciable amount. Source the rand corporation. Hardly a liberal think tank. Waiting periods reduce suicides and domestic murder at a statistically significant level.
 
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Universal background checks are supported by most Republicans and as you would imagine, far more Democrats. At large 80 to 90% of population supports it. It's an easy move. It's also move that begins a gun transfer database easily, which is why Filthy @Filthy hates it and would put an end to peer to peer sales and gifts of guns outside of the presence of a licensed firearms dealer that could run a background check on the recipient.licensed firearms dealer that could run a background check on the recipient..

And with such a move you would have the foundation to enforce the law against straw purchases and prove guns are stolen.
 

Filthy

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Not at any appreciable amount. Source the rand corporation. Hardly a liberal think tank. Waiting periods reduce suicides and domestic murder at a statistically significant level.
which other Natural Rights should we go after?

Freedom of Religion? what about those violent religions?

again - you want to regulate the behavior of over 150M people because a couple cops refused to do their job.
 

Filthy

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Universal background checks are supported by most Republicans and as you would imagine, far more Democrats. At large 80 to 90% of population supports it. It's an easy move. It's also move that begins a gun transfer database easily, which is why Filthy @Filthy hates it and would put an end to peer to peer sales and gifts of guns outside of the presence of a licensed firearms dealer that could run a background check on the recipient.licensed firearms dealer that could run a background check on the recipient..

And with such a move you would have the foundation to enforce the law against straw purchases and prove guns are stolen.
as soon as you have a database of all the firearms in existence.

how many crimes have been solved with the Canadian database?

LoL

how about police accountability as a solution?
 
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Did you know that mass shootings have tripled since the end of the assault weapons ban? I'm not a fan of the assault weapons ban. It probably doesn't really impact total gun crime given that so much of our crime is related to pistols. But it does highlight that the technical nature of a semi-automatic rifle with a 30+ round magazine increases the ability for an idiot with no skills to shoot a lot of people quickly. It's simply a tool that has a higher risk to the rest of us in untrained and unscreened hands.

Such tools should be behind the NFA curtain requiring additional background, checking and permitting to possess.
 

Filthy

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Did you know that mass shootings have tripled since the end of the assault weapons ban? I'm not a fan of the assault weapons ban. It probably doesn't really impact total gun crime given that so much of our crime is related to pistols. But it does highlight that the technical nature of a semi-automatic rifle with a 30+ round magazine increases the ability for an idiot with no skills to shoot a lot of people quickly. It's simply a tool that has a higher risk to the rest of us in untrained and unscreened hands.

Such tools should be behind the NFA curtain requiring additional background, checking and permitting to possess.
the definition of mass shootings changed.

Thanks for noticing. How many mass shootings would have been prevented with the AWB?

LoL
 
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which other Natural Rights should we go after?

Freedom of Religion? what about those violent religions?

again - you want to regulate the behavior of over 150M people because a couple cops refused to do their job.

We've already discussed this. The second amendment is not absolute. Permits for concealed carry and automatic weapons and NFA tax stamp requirements already show this.

Neither is a right that doesn't involve purchasing a physical item that changes with technology over time. Freedom of speech is not 100% absolute in all scenarios. You could probably say anything you want in your own home. And we all acknowledge that there are gradients where societal interests begins to play when you yell fire in the crowded movie, theater or state public lies or threats.