General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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BeardOfKnowledge

BeardOfKnowledge

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Splinty said:
www.nbcnews.com

Murphy rules out assault weapons ban, new background checks in Senate plan

Among the proposals on the table are investments in mental health care and school safety and “modest but impactful” changes in gun laws, said Sen. Chris Murphy.
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Background checks are a good idea. Good enough to strengthen the background check system. But we won't make sure that each transfer has to have one, so lol you can just circumvent it anytime.


Ridiculous. This is perhaps the easiest of all things politically

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You don't need background checks at each purchase if one is done initially. It would simply be a matter of the background check system flagging someone who previously underwent a background check should they run afoul of the law.
 
Filthy

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Arsch mit Ohren said:
Don't forget Filthy @Filthy chose "being present at a mass shooting".
So if 50 kids get killed and 500 injured, he still counts it at 1.

If 2 kids get killed it'll prolly count as 0, coz no mass.

Its a bullcrap comparison and he knows it.
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No, I chose "being present" because it gives a higher probability than "being injured or killed".

For each incident, I used the average school size which is significantly higher than the population of any school where an incident has occurred. so if 50 kids killed and 500 injured, and the average school size is 2k students, I used 2k students as victims of the attack. Being present is traumatizing, and we're not trying to lower the death count - we're trying to stop the incidents from happening.

And obviously I used the standard "4 or more killed, not including killer" as the metric of "mass shooting".

Holy Shit you guys are bad at math.
 
Filthy

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Splinty said:
www.nbcnews.com

Murphy rules out assault weapons ban, new background checks in Senate plan

Among the proposals on the table are investments in mental health care and school safety and “modest but impactful” changes in gun laws, said Sen. Chris Murphy.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com


Background checks are a good idea. Good enough to strengthen the background check system. But we won't make sure that each transfer has to have one, so lol you can just circumvent it anytime.


Ridiculous. This is perhaps the easiest of all things politically

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which killer would have been stopped by a background check?
 
Filthy

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Shinkicker said:
You’re the one that chose lightning. If you want to compare kids hit by cars in the school parking lot then let’s do it. And let’s consider the fatality rate of those, please.

If you want to compare drownings everywhere then you should use kids killed by any gun anywhere. Or just use drownings at school or maybe drownings where a lifeguard is on duty.

Again, you’re comparisons suck ass.

It’s a diversion to allow you to feel good about doing nothing.
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all of those comparisons show that children are at significantly higher risk than being killed at school.

being killed at school is all over the news, but that's because it's so rare.

And i don't understand how you're fixating on "the gun" as the problem. Why isn't "police accountability" the problem? Who do you think is responsible for making sure the exterior doors lock?

This incident wasn't the success of a firearm, it was the failure of the police.
 
Freeloading Rusty

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Filthy said:
they have a lot of mass shootings.
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They have a lot of people.

California has some of the strictest gun laws in America.

California has one of the lowest per capita gun violence and mass shooting rates in America.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Filthy said:
which killer would have been stopped by a background check?
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Cost/benefit dictates that background checks make sense even if the amount of mass shootings they'd have prevented would have been low. This of course is contingent on law enforcement agencies doing their fucking jobs, which seems unlikely.
 
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