General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

[John Lee Pettimore]

it's called the internet.

it's a thing now.

are illegal guns the only ways to accomplish mass murder of children?

You really want to talk about how Tim McVeigh carried out his attack, and pretend like that was something that Adam Lanza or Salvador Ramos was capable of doing?

You know that now if you buy more than 25 pounds of ammonium nitrate, you have to go on a register and be screened against a terrorist watch list? And if your ammonium nitrate is stolen, you are legally required to report it immediately upon discovering the theft?

Why do those laws now exist, do you think? McVeigh didn't have to follow them. Are you upset about your relative lack of access to ammonium nitrate?

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[Filthy]

You really want to talk about how Tim McVeigh carried out his attack, and pretend like that was something that Adam Lanza or Salvador Ramos was capable of doing?

You know that now if you buy more than 25 pounds of ammonium nitrate, you have to go on a register and be screened against a terrorist watch list? And if your ammonium nitrate is stolen, you are legally required to report it immediately upon discovering the theft?

Why do those laws now exist, do you think? McVeigh didn't have to follow them. Are you upset about your relative lack of access to ammonium nitrate?

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so there's no way for an 18 yo to acquire prohibited substances?

are you familiar with being 18?

EDIT - and I know more about the legal requirements of bulk fertilizer than most people, as I worked at a ag supply store as a teenager.

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

so there's no way for an 18 yo to acquire prohibited substances?

are you familiar with being 18?

You are going to tell me that Adam Lanza was going to buy bulk industrial fertiliser and make a truck bomb the size of the Oklahoma bomb?

Either you are absolutely delusional, know nothing at all about that piece of shit, or are straight up lying.

EDIT - and I know more about the legal requirements of bulk fertilizer than most people, as I worked at a ag supply store as a teenager.

Then you should know that you can't recreate McVeigh's process without getting a knock on the door, and what McVeigh did is the reason for that.

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[Filthy]

You are going to tell me that Adam Lanza was going to buy bulk industrial fertiliser and make a truck bomb the size of the Oklahoma bomb?

Either you are absolutely delusional, know nothing at all about that piece of shit, or are straight up lying.



Then you should know that you can't recreate McVeigh's process without getting a knock on the door, and what McVeigh did is the reason for that.

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i know where I could steal everything McVeigh used without leaving anything but a description of a vehicle. LoL.

Mass murder of children is already banned. If you think you're going to get somewhere playing whack-a-mole with a particular outlet for mass murder of children, then you're either delusional, know nothing at all about mass murderers, or are straight up lying.

EDIT - and no one needs an OKC-sized truck bomb to blow up a bunch of kids.

you just need a door the police left unlocked.

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

i know where I could steal everything McVeigh used without leaving anything but a description of a vehicle. LoL.

Mass murder of children is already banned. If you think you're going to get somewhere playing whack-a-mole with a particular outlet for mass murder of children, then you're either delusional, know nothing at all about mass murderers, or are straight up lying.

Do you think that Adam Lanza was capable of making a truck bomb like McVeigh (or Breivik) did?

Yes, or no?

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[kaladin stormblessed]

i know where I could steal everything McVeigh used without leaving anything but a description of a vehicle. LoL.

Mass murder of children is already banned. If you think you're going to get somewhere playing whack-a-mole with a particular outlet for mass murder of children, then you're either delusional, know nothing at all about mass murderers, or are straight up lying.

Come on man

Kids can go out, buy an AK-47 and commit a mass murder that same day

It is silly to think that every single one of these kids would jump through hoops to commit mass murder through other means such as bombs

 

[Filthy]

Do you think that Adam Lanza was capable of making a truck bomb like McVeigh (or Breivik) did?

Yes, or no?

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Capable? absolutely. Anyone who can follow directions is capable.

He's also perfectly capable of making pressure cooker bombs or pipe bombs or any number of improvised explosive devices.

Do you think he was going to stop wanting to mass murder children in 4 months, when he would have been 21 and capable of buying any weapon in the gun store?

 

[kaladin stormblessed]

Splint said it best early in this thread. Reasonable gun regulation is the best way to protect the 2nd amendment

But because it's taken so long and will continue to take so long to implement reasonable gun legislation, more and more people (such as myself) have given up

Now we want assault rifle bans and more.

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

EDIT - and no one needs an OKC-sized truck bomb to blow up a bunch of kids.

you just need a door the police left unlocked.

Lanza didn't need an unlocked door. Sandy Hook only had one entryway, and it was locked.

And this is your plan? If there's an unlocked exterior door anywhere in a school at any time, then THAT is the problem and the main enabler if some 18 year old psychopath walks in there with a couple of AR-15s and a few hundred hollow point rounds?

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[Filthy]

Come on man

Kids can go out, buy an AK-47 and commit a mass murder that same day

It is silly to think that every single one of these kids would jump through hoops to commit mass murder through other means such as bombs

my dude, I made pipe bombs when I was 14.
burned down a chicken coop with DIY "napalm".

kids do shit to see if they can. And now the amount of information kids have access to...if you can follow instructions you can make it happen.

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

Capable? absolutely. Anyone who can follow directions is capable.

He's also perfectly capable of making pressure cooker bombs or pipe bombs or any number of improvised explosive devices.

Either you don't know anything about how socially dysfunctional that little cunt was, or you are straight up lying.

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[Filthy]

Lanza didn't need an unlocked door. Sandy Hook only had one entryway, and it was locked.

And this is your plan? If there's an unlocked exterior door anywhere in a school at any time, then THAT is the problem and the main enabler if some 18 year old psychopath walks in there with a couple of AR-15s and a few hundred hollow point rounds?

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you're running around in circles.

was Lanza going to stop wanting to murder kids in 4 months?

the Uvalde killer could have walked in with a couple .22 pistols and he would have killed just as many kids.
he was locked in a room with 30 victims while the police waited outside.

 

[Filthy]

Either you don't know anything about how socially dysfunctional that little cunt was, or you are straight up lying.

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socially-dysfunctional means incapable of downloading plans and instructions from the DarkWeb?

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

my dude, I made pipe bombs when I was 14.
burned down a chicken coop with DIY "napalm".

kids do shit to see if they can. And now the amount of information kids have access to...if you can follow instructions you can make it happen.

Columbine kids made pipe bombs too. Dozens of them. Took them into the school, and used them. Killed nobody with them. Made a couple of propane tank bombs too, in fact they were intended to be the central feature of the attack and kill hundreds - Columbine was first and foremost a failed bombing, not a successful shooting. FBI confirmed that they would have killed hundreds if they had detonated, too. Turns out making an effective bomb on a timer is much, much more difficult than pulling a trigger is.

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[Filthy]

And this is your plan? If there's an unlocked exterior door anywhere in a school at any time, then THAT is the problem and the main enabler if some 18 year old psychopath walks in there with a couple of AR-15s and a few hundred hollow point rounds?

no, my plan is to increase access to mental health care for everyone.
And to make police accountable for the people they're responsible for letting die.

and those two things solve a lot more problems than "let's ban some rifles"

 

[kaladin stormblessed]

Columbine kids made pipe bombs too. Dozens of them. Took them into the school, and used them. Killed nobody with them. Made a couple of propane tank bombs too, they were intended to be the central feature of the attack and kill hundreds - Columbine was first and foremost a failed bombing, not a successful shooting. Turns out making an effective bomb on a timer is much more difficult than pulling a trigger is.

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Boom! No pun intended

 

[Filthy]

Columbine kids made pipe bombs too. Dozens of them. Took them into the school, and used them. Killed nobody with them. Made a couple of propane tank bombs too, they were intended to be the central feature of the attack and kill hundreds - Columbine was first and foremost a failed bombing, not a successful shooting. Turns out making an effective bomb on a timer is much more difficult than pulling a trigger is.

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no shit.

but those socially-dysfunctional Boston Marathon bombers made it work. Imagine if they'd set those in a school hallway or gymnasium

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

no, my plan is to increase access to mental health care for everyone.
And to make police accountable for the people they're responsible for letting die.

Oh hey, good luck getting the GOP on board with that. ?

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[Filthy]

Oh hey, good luck getting the GOP on board with that. ?

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yeah - they're lining up to ban AR15s, right?

you just can't stop blaming the GOP for all the world's problems, huh?

how are the Dems doing on social justice and universal health care? They've had a majority of both houses and the executive for a couple years...even managed to print $1.9T...

 

[John Lee Pettimore]

no shit.

but those socially-dysfunctional Boston Marathon bombers made it work. Imagine if they'd set those in a school hallway or gymnasium

They didn't have access to isolated farmland to experiment with fertiliser like McVeigh and Breivik did, and they killed 3 people with their two stupid little pressure cooker bombs.

You reckon that's more of a death toll than if you'd had 2 guys with AR-15s and 30 round magazines start shooting into the crowd at the finish line?

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[MMAHAWK]

my dude, I made pipe bombs when I was 14.
burned down a chicken coop with DIY "napalm".

kids do shit to see if they can. And now the amount of information kids have access to...if you can follow instructions you can make it happen.

There was no such thing as the anarchist cookbook. So that definitely never happened to you or m…..never mind

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

he Uvalde killer could have walked in with a couple .22 pistols and he would have killed just as many kids.
he was locked in a room with 30 victims while the police waited outside.

Honest question for you here... Do you think the cops would have been pissing their panties and waiting as long as they did if the shooter was reported to have been using hand guns?

 

[Shinkicker]

Capable? absolutely. Anyone who can follow directions is capable.

He's also perfectly capable of making pressure cooker bombs or pipe bombs or any number of improvised explosive devices.

Do you think he was going to stop wanting to mass murder children in 4 months, when he would have been 21 and capable of buying any weapon in the gun store?

But he didn’t try to make bombs. He waited until he could buy his weapon of choice, an assault rifle.

 

[Filthy]

Honest question for you here... Do you think the cops would have been pissing their panties and waiting as long as they did if the shooter was reported to have been using hand guns?

yes.

they were following a protocol, based on incorrect and easily verifiable information.

 

[Filthy]

But he didn’t try to make bombs. He waited until he could buy his weapon of choice, an assault rifle.

and if that option wasn't available...he would have done what?

normalized and began contributing to society in a meaningful way?

what if he'd connected with a counselor or therapist when he was 14? or do you think he just woke up one day and decided to go buy guns and kill kids?

If he waited until he was 18, why couldn't he wait until he was 21?