General Senate Judiciary Committee Report on Jan 6th

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Speaker to Animals

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May 16, 2021
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They did the first Episode during primetime in the US.
That is not normal and that is for a reason.

Is Trump a fool and corrupt? Yes
Is the "Left" any different? No

Primetime debut with a producer from ABC
These are the days, you put on a slick show.
If they didn't people would bitch that it looks cheap and was poorly advertised.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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They should hold the dude and anyone that tried to make it happen accountable, agreed?
I don't see what that has to do with the previously quoted quip you made, but yes of course they should be held accountable.

I figured that given all this "January 6 was an attack on democracy" talk people would be infuriated about a more egregious and obvious attempt to overthrow it, but people don't see to care too much about it. Weird.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Explain please.
Supreme Court judges are the ones who rule on constitutional matters. By killing a Trump appointed judge to replace him with a Biden appointed one is a literal attempt to alter how the American democratic system is supposed to function.

On the other hand, having Pence not certify the election results doesn't change the elections outcome. This has apparently been mentioned in the proceedings by Pence"s own team.
 

Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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Supreme Court judges are the ones who rule on constitutional matters. By killing a Trump appointed judge to replace him with a Biden appointed one is a literal attempt to alter how the American democratic system is supposed to function.

On the other hand, having Pence not certify the election results doesn't change the elections outcome. This has apparently been mentioned in the proceedings by Pence"s own team.
What's important is that Trump believed him to be wrong on that, and pressured him to overturn the results.

Given that public complacency is just what the GOP is counting on, it just might have worked.
Insurrection, nah.

He tried to start a fucking Civil War to soothe his ego.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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What's important is that Trump believed him to be wrong on that, and pressured him to overturn the results.

Given that public complacency is just what the GOP is counting on, it just might have worked.
Insurrection, nah.

He tried to start a fucking Civil War to soothe his ego.
There's not a lot to suggest he was trying to start a civil war.

It also doesn't have anything to do with a Bidenite trying to assassinate a supreme court judge.
 

Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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There's not a lot to suggest he was trying to start a civil war.

It also doesn't have anything to do with a Bidenite trying to assassinate a supreme court judge.
There's no doubt in either of our minds that Trump would've very happily stood by while shit happened that kept him in the Oval Office.

Now, given that he said he wouldn't accept the outcome of an election he loses, and given his inaction when his bullshit led to the riot (I was dumb enough at the time to think "Well the least he can do is give a televised address to the Nation.")...
It's not a great leap. He wanted to stay in power, wouldn't accept defeat, and lit a fire under his brainless idiot worshipers.

If it had gone to Pence and he'd pussed out, many of the people whose votes suddenly didn't matter would pick up weapons.


That led us to this thread. He still leads the party, and they're nearly all lapdogs. His worst, clearly violent followers still believe the election was stolen. This is still a thing, it's not over yet.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Apr 24, 2017
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Supreme Court judges are the ones who rule on constitutional matters. By killing a Trump appointed judge to replace him with a Biden appointed one is a literal attempt to alter how the American democratic system is supposed to function.

On the other hand, having Pence not certify the election results doesn't change the elections outcome. This has apparently been mentioned in the proceedings by Pence"s own team.
thats not what Pence's team said about that. he said there would have been short-term and long-term consequences if Pence had rejected the electors

short-term, his counsel said that if Pence had done it, there would have been a very messy political jumpball that would have to be resolved in the courts. he also said that there would have been chaos on the streets

long term, he said that would have set precedent that the VP has the power to reject an election