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Pitbull9

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Jan 28, 2015
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I keep hearing people Claim over and over again that Israel stole the land that was once the Palestinians. Let me just hit you with a little bit of knowledge even though im sure it wont matter to certain people.

First the land never belong to Palestine prior to Israel it was owned by Britain and for 300 years prior to that it was owned by the Turks. Palestine never existed as a country. So obviously they are not occupying anyone's land. I suppose you forgot why they occupy Gaza and West Bank. It was because they were being attacked from there. Indeed an entire war was waged from those areas. Israel occupied those lands as a buffer between them and Arab communities in order to prevent futher attacks. And minimize atrocities committed by these terrorist groups.
 
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As a person of Jewish heritage...

I'm gonna stay the hell out of this thread.

I get yelled at enough about Israel IRL thanks.
 

Pitbull9

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Jan 28, 2015
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As a person of Jewish heritage...

I'm gonna stay the hell out of this thread.

I get yelled at enough about Israel IRL thanks.
So do I and its all good, truth hurts sometimes. Usually its specific type of people that say certain things. I wont go into it more than that lol.
 

Wintermute

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Apr 24, 2015
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Well, THAT sure cleared EVERYTHING up.

...FYI- I'm moving into your living room because your neighbor that's mayor of your town said it's OK. That's cool, right?
 
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Well, THAT sure cleared EVERYTHING up.

...FYI- I'm moving into your living room because your neighbor that's mayor of your town said it's OK. That's cool, right?
Yea? I'm coming too. OP can benchpress me.
 

SAJ

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Aug 2, 2015
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I have a lot to say about this and I will. After work most likely. You can't sum it up in two paragraphs.

All I ask, keep it civil. These discussions always go off the rail.
 

Pitbull9

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Jan 28, 2015
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Well, THAT sure cleared EVERYTHING up.

...FYI- I'm moving into your living room because your neighbor that's mayor of your town said it's OK. That's cool, right?
You sure as fuck can my man! We would have a crazy time. Based on our mutual interests in Ass lol
 

Qat

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So it was not home for the Palestinians because they had a British governor or something? Its not like bazillion Brits lived there and were just swapped out for others. Who then took over and made new rules.

And wait a second, weren't you even against taking in refugees? Now imagine those refugees not only coming to you, but also taking over the government and changing your life in your home.
Maybe you would feel a bit strange about that too, hm?

And I'm not pro or against anything here, just trying to argue your point. Well I'm against violence, terror and war of course.
 

Pitbull9

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So it was not home for the Palestinians because they had a British governor or something? Its not like bazillion Brits lived there and were just swapped out for others. Who then took over and made new rules.

And wait a second, weren't you even against taking in refugees? Now imagine those refugees not only coming to you, but also taking over the government and changing your life in your home.

And I'm not pro or against anything here, just trying to argue your point.
Thats cool my man youre allowed. If i was them i would embrace some of the amazing changes Israel made, they turned that nothing into something amazing. Look at most of the middle east, except for a few countries its a fucking cesspool. What do you think they would have done? Now im certainly not saying i agree with every move Israel makes but for the most part they are not exactly dealing with sensible people. We all know whats up with the middle east i dont think we have to play dumb.
 
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But I'll give it a 6/10.

Not that creative, but trying to sum up the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in two paragraphs is pretty funny lol.
 

Qat

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Thats cool my man youre allowed. If i was them i would embrace some of the amazing changes Israel made, they turned that nothing into something amazing. Look at most of the middle east, except for a few countries its a fucking cesspool. What do you think they would have done? Now im certainly not saying i agree with every move Israel makes but for the most part they are not exactly dealing with sensible people. We all know whats up with the middle east i dont think we have to play dumb.
But you are not them. And you can say that now with the knowledge you have now, but can you really see their point of view at those points in time? I doubt it.

Would I rather live in Israel than in Syria? Sure thing. But this is coming from my perspective in my culture. I also have to respect the perspective of other people who might chose differently.
A couple of colleagues actually went to Syria on vacation about 10 years ago. These people lived a simple life, but if they are happy with that, why not? Change is always frightening anyway, and even more so when it comes from the outside and is huge. It is quite normal that opposition forms to that.
It's a similar argument to native Americans and the dudes who came over from Europe..
 

Pitbull9

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But you are not them. And you can say that now with the knowledge you have now, but can you really see their point of view at those points in time? I doubt it.

Would I rather live in Israel than in Syria? Sure thing. But this is coming from my perspective in my culture. I also have to respect the perspective of other people who might chose differently.
A couple of colleagues actually went to Syria on vacation about 10 years ago. These people lived a simple life, but if they are happy with that, why not? Change is always frightening anyway, and even more so when it comes from the outside and is huge. It is quite normal that opposition forms to that.
It's a similar argument to native Americans and the dudes who came over from Europe..
I hear you on that. Good points.
 

CursedHand

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If you get another spare ten minutes, please could you also clear up The Troubles and India/Pakistan for us?
 

Pitbull9

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Jan 28, 2015
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If you get another spare ten minutes, please could you also clear up The Troubles and India/Pakistan for us?
Jesus i wont even touch that shit lol.

Guys i didnt say i was clearing up the WHOLE debate just that small aspect. Thanks homeslices.