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MMAHAWK

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is that what happened?

he saw a black man and chased him down with a shotgun?

LoL.
Heard gunshots in an alley
Got in his truck that already had a shotgun in it. Drove up on a black man , got out of the truck and pointed the gun at him. Called the cops and held him at gun point. Man was completely innocent. Turns out it was someone setting off fireworks.

oh and Fetterman was the Mayor
He claims he didn’t point the gun


View: https://youtu.be/_cZ4x12Mb40
 

Filthy

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Heard gunshots in an alley
Got in his truck that already had a shotgun in it. Drove up on a black man , got out of the truck and pointed the gun at him. Called the cops and held him at gun point. Man was completely innocent. Turns out it was someone setting off fireworks.

oh and Fetterman was the Mayor
He claims he didn’t point the gun


View: https://youtu.be/_cZ4x12Mb40
the guy he stopped also said that he thought it was gunshots until he looked up and saw fireworks.

but considering that the guy didn't file a complaint, it happened once in a split-second decision, and that Fetterman wasn't convicted of a felony, no.
It's absolutely not disqualifying.

You can't trash Uvalde police for doing nothing AND trash Fetterman for doing something. He didn't harm anyone, and I didn't see any indication that the race of the individual was a factor in his decision. It's a real stretch to call Fetterman a racist over this situation.
 

MMAHAWK

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the guy he stopped also said that he thought it was gunshots until he looked up and saw fireworks.

but considering that the guy didn't file a complaint, it happened once in a split-second decision, and that Fetterman wasn't convicted of a felony, no.
It's absolutely not disqualifying.

You can't trash Uvalde police for doing nothing AND trash Fetterman for doing something. He didn't harm anyone, and I didn't see any indication that the race of the individual was a factor in his decision. It's a real stretch to call Fetterman a racist over this situation.
Just to be clear then
The guys in Georgia who murdered that guy were cool until they fired?
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
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the guy he stopped also said that he thought it was gunshots until he looked up and saw fireworks.

but considering that the guy didn't file a complaint, it happened once in a split-second decision, and that Fetterman wasn't convicted of a felony, no.
It's absolutely not disqualifying.

You can't trash Uvalde police for doing nothing AND trash Fetterman for doing something. He didn't harm anyone, and I didn't see any indication that the race of the individual was a factor in his decision. It's a real stretch to call Fetterman a racist over this situation.
Also can’t bash police for not doing their job, unless I’m ok with a man randomly picking another and holding at gun point?
One was the police
The other wasn’t
 

Filthy

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Also can’t bash police for not doing their job, unless I’m ok with a man randomly picking another and holding at gun point?
One was the police
The other wasn’t
but the parents who tried to get in to the school, same-same?
 

Filthy

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Just to be clear then
The guys in Georgia who murdered that guy were cool until they fired?
no. the assault started before they fired.

and they didn't articulate any exigent circumstances, like a volley of "gunfire" immediately preceding the incident
 

MMAHAWK

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but the parents who tried to get in to the school, same-same?
LOL at comparing kids being murdered in real time and holding up an unarmed random dude.

If the parents grabbed guns and ran into the wrong school I’d definitely call them morons and say they shouldn’t be in congress.
 

Filthy

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LOL at comparing kids being murdered in real time and holding up an unarmed random dude.

If the parents grabbed guns and ran into the wrong school I’d definitely call them morons and say they shouldn’t be in congress.
he wasn't a random unarmed dude. He was a guy seen fleeing the sound of "gunfire".
He was accosted, but didn't feel inconvenienced enough to file a complaint.

it's a long reach to say he's not fit to represent his constituents. If the parents had charged in with guns and killed the guy, we'd be calling them heroes. They'd probably be charged with felonies and disqualified from holding office.

But none of that happened here. It might disqualify Fetterman from an individual's vote, but it's not a pattern of bad judgment or recklessness with firearms.
 

MMAHAWK

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he wasn't a random unarmed dude. He was a guy seen fleeing the sound of "gunfire".
He was accosted, but didn't feel inconvenienced enough to file a complaint.

it's a long reach to say he's not fit to represent his constituents. If the parents had charged in with guns and killed the guy, we'd be calling them heroes. They'd probably be charged with felonies and disqualified from holding office.

But none of that happened here. It might disqualify Fetterman from an individual's vote, but it's not a pattern of bad judgment or recklessness with firearms.
I disagree
I’m actually surprised your ok with using guns to intimidate and play vigilante.
But
He’ll likely win then vote to take away your guns.
 

Filthy

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I disagree
I’m actually surprised your ok with using guns to intimidate and play vigilante.
But
He’ll likely win then vote to take away your guns.
if the guy he accosted had filed a complaint, I'd feel differently.
if you could show me any other examples of racism, recklessness with life and death, or a pattern of poor judgment (as can be shown with Dr. Oz), I'll feel differently.

making the wrong decision isn't an indication of bad judgment. He certainly managed to deescalate the situation without causing harm.
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.

I'm not a single-issue voter, although as a libertarian (lower-case) I rarely have to put undue weight on a candidate's position on firearms.
 

Filthy

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MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK

remember when Pres Trump said they should take away the guns first, and then due process later?
remember when Pres Trump banned bump-stocks by telling the BATFE to re-interpret their ruling?

I know who is a threat to liberty, and they're all from the same party.
 

MMAHAWK

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MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK

remember when Pres Trump said they should take away the guns first, and then due process later?
remember when Pres Trump banned bump-stocks by telling the BATFE to re-interpret their ruling?

I know who is a threat to liberty, and they're all from the same party.
But remember how that didn’t ever happen?
 

Filthy

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But remember how that didn’t ever happen?

View: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/2018/02/28/4f767df6-1cec-11e8-98f5-ceecfa8741b6_video.html


 

MMAHAWK

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making the wrong decision isn't an indication of bad judgment.
You see how these conversations are tough? But I gotta ask. If wrong decisions isn’t an indication.
What’s an indication of bad judgement?
 

MMAHAWK

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View: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/2018/02/28/4f767df6-1cec-11e8-98f5-ceecfa8741b6_video.html


Did he take a gun from a single person or just speak nonsense?
 

Filthy

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Did he take a gun from a single person or just speak nonsense?
shouldn't speaking nonsense in a way that indicates a willingness to deprive people of basic human rights disqualify someone from being the head of Executive?