General *Gas Price Thread* - Post here and Track Biden-flation.

[Rambo John J]

I can only speak from experience

I notice a difference and I am running all types of engines, not just my 2 trucks...although they both are thirsty fellas.
Some of my smaller and midsized engines will absolutely get fucked up by 92 premium gas, firsthand experience tells me this.

If I only bought premium gas for all my engines I would pay about 3600...I choose to pay 4300 per year...700 cost is passed off because it is a business expense...700 a year/12 months = 60 per month cost to run only clear.

The higher Premium ethanol cost is, the less the price gap for Clear gas is here.
I have seen it as low as .10 USD difference per gallon in the last year, it is usually 30-90 cents higher.

I am ok with the cost







I appreciate all the posts and input, discussion is good
Thanks fellas

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Ok. Since you're not going to listen to me on this how about the feds? Here's a DOE page explaining how the btu content of fuel WILL impact fuel economy & yes even E10 reduces mpg:

Ethanol (fueleconomy.gov)

Here are a couple studies on the corrosive tendencies of oxygenated fuels. Ethanol will hold FAR more water than E0 gasoline and has serious impacts on automotive and small engine applications:

Study of Corrosion of Metallic Materials in Ethanol–Gasoline Blends: Application of Electrochemical Methods | Energy & Fuels (acs.org)

Corrosion assessment of metals in bioethanol-gasoline blends using electrochemical impedance spectroscopy - ScienceDirect

Since many don't like to read, here is a video of some issues with ethanol during short tripped engines. I didn't search very long so this happened to be for E85. You will see rust, carbon & sludge. This was supposedly a short tripped engine that received 2,000mi OCI's.


View: https://youtu.be/bPcVBc4-5Mk?si=_e9m99L3uaZC9nxx


Now this issue can still happen with E10 & E15 it's just a slower process. Like I stated previously, vehicles & equipment that are stored for longer periods of time are more likely to encounter these issues than a daily driven vehicle, unless that DD is a short tripped DI engine and the oil is never allowed to come up to operating temperature.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

Modern vehicles get better mileage than ever before and engines are replaced far less frequently. What a bunch of egghead's come up with in a lab does not equate to real world performance as I've tried to point out to you multiple times. At this point I'm not going to be responding to anymore of your "Trust the Science" posts.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I can only speak from experience

I notice a difference and I am running all types of engines, not just my 2 trucks...although they both are thirsty fellas.
Some of my smaller and midsized engines will absolutely get fucked up by 92 premium gas, firsthand experience tells me this.

If I only bought premium gas for all my engines I would pay about 3600...I choose to pay 4300 per year...700 cost is passed off because it is a business expense...700 a year/12 months = 60 per month cost to run only clear.

The higher Premium ethanol cost is, the less the price gap for Clear gas is here.
I have seen it as low as .10 USD difference per gallon in the last year, it is usually 30-90 cents higher.

I am ok with the cost







I appreciate all the posts and input, discussion is good
Thanks fellas

You pay more for fuel with ethanol in it? I've also never seen premium with ethanol in it, not saying it doesn't exist I just haven't seen it. I'm very confused by this post.

 

[Rambo John J]

You pay more for fuel with ethanol in it? I've also never seen premium with ethanol in it, not saying it doesn't exist I just haven't seen it. I'm very confused by this post.

I think all fuel at most gas stations in Oregon is 10% ethanol...the 87, 89, 92 octane all is 10% ethanol here...state law or something

A few select stations, usually rural, offer non ethanol 92 octane. I only use 92 octane, it usually costs me 30-90 cents more per gallon.

 

[rmenergy]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

Modern vehicles get better mileage than ever before and engines are replaced far less frequently. What a bunch of egghead's come up with in a lab does not equate to real world performance as I've tried to point out to you multiple times. At this point I'm not going to be responding to anymore of your "Trust the Science" posts.

You have to be the biggest fucking idiot I've ever come across. "physics is bullshit" "I don't understand btu's or thermal capacity".

I used to think of you as a bit of a snarky yet intelligent poster, you're seriously either a drooling retard or too ego driven to recognize when you're wrong. YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG. You've been shown evidence of such & are too self centered to admit it.

Keep up the pond homeslice, you fucking idiot. The beard must be down to a moustache at this point haha

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I think all fuel at most gas stations in Oregon is 10% ethanol...the 87, 89, 92 octane all is 10% ethanol here...state law or something

A few select stations, usually rural, offer non ethanol 92 octane. I only use 92 octane, it usually costs me 30-90 cents more per gallon.

Just scoped it out. 91 and above is exempt from the E10 law.

 

[sparkuri]

I just ran high octane for about a thousand miles or so.
My mpg was estimated @ 2-3 mpg greater, and I KNOW it felt better.
I also now live in an area of $3.29-$3.69 oer gallon, so I go ethanol-free whenever possible.
It is better imo.
I feel for longevity overall.

 

[sparkuri]

For years I though higher octane was bullshit, probaby 25 years.
No longer.
Whether that's worth it long-term is totally situational.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

My mpg was estimated @ 2-3 mpg greater, and I KNOW it felt better

So your mileage improved by an amount that could be caused by literally any variable but your feelings tell you it's better it's the fuel? Do you hear yourself?

 

[jason73]

gas is 189.9\L for regular i couldnt afford premium if i wanted to

 

[Papi Chingon]

 

[sparkuri]

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[jason73]

gas is 189.9\L for regular i couldnt afford premium if i wanted to

 

[Rambo John J]

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They are raping you guys via gas prices
Seems like Cali is also raping it's population via gas prices

I saw regular here for 3.91 at Costco this week...lowest in over a year

Fuck these assholes

Just buy an electric car they say...fuck em

 

[Thuglife13]

They are raping you guys via gas prices
Seems like Cali is also raping it's population via gas prices

I saw regular here for 3.91 at Costco this week...lowest in over a year

Fuck these assholes

Just buy an electric car they say...fuck em

Cheapest here average is $5ish and the more expensive places are average $6ish...

 

[jason73]

View: https://twitter.com/WeAreCanProud/status/1707796125552365569


$141.73 for 20 gallons of fuel @184.6

 

[jason73]

according to gas buddy there is only 1 single gas station in vancouver that is under 2 bucks a liter

 

[Judobill]

3.25 per gallon today in Madison Wi

 

[Robbie Hart]

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That’s Fucking criminal

 

[Thuglife13]

View: https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1713707073425285128

 

[Rambo John J]

View: https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1713707073425285128

I like when he shows the receipts for those claims

A few claims he didn't show proof and I think he exaggerated

7% per month is more accurate for some products, not 7% per year

 

[sparkuri]

 

[Judobill]

Unleaded in Madison Wi today, $3.05

 

[rmenergy]

$5.29/gallon for 87 octane when I got off work at 0600 this morning. That was at Chevron, the 76 was $0.10/gallon cheaper but dirty & a pita to enter/exit.

 

[mysticmac]

$4.35 / gallon @ Costco in Seattle.