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Rambo John J

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Hey Rambo John J @Rambo John J whilst we're comparing the stats of QBs from the same era, let's have a discussion about how much better Dan Marino was than John Elway lol.
Elway had the Rocket Arm and was an Unreal Athlete, Lazer beam throws and clutch gene was a good combo.
Marino had the nice arm, touch, and release. Best Passer ever maybe, ahead of his time.



Elway with two ACLs would have been interesting to see
 
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Sergio

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Kelce is the one of the very few players on a roster that is on scholarship, I know Veach/Andy probably want him to retire.

I don't think they will release him though, but seeing him in Divisional game against Houston when he catch a pass was able to shake off a defender him in that open space he looked slow as hell.
 

Wild

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You know what - I'll only use the years they played at the same time.
1971 through 1977

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Namath is in the HOF.
Ken Anderson doesn't get a sniff. It's fucking criminal.

Using pro football reference HOF monitor, Anderson is an 82.99
That puts him ABOVE other guys already in the HOF.
  • Ken Stabler 82.2
  • Sonny Jurgensen 78.57
  • Bob Griese 73
  • Warren Moon 71.3
  • Joe Namath 70
  • Len Dawson 69.74
  • Troy Aikman 64.28
  • Jim Kelly 59.10

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Man they're eerily similar. Thats crazy.
 

Rambo John J

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Kelce is the one of the very few players on a roster that is on scholarship, I know Veach/Andy probably want him to retire.

I don't think they will release him though, but seeing him in Divisional game against Houston when he catch a pass was able to shake off a defender him in that open space he looked slow as hell.
He does look much slower, wear and tear and he got that Pfizer 20 million so not training as hard

Scholarship? = Contract
 

Sergio

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He does look much slower, wear and tear and he got that Pfizer 20 million so not training as hard

Scholarship? = Contract
Taking a spot on the roster along with contract.

But things could get weird if he doesn't tell the team what he wants to do by the start of free agency/draft.
 

Rambo John J

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Taking a spot on the roster along with contract.

But things could get weird if he doesn't tell the team what he wants to do by the start of free agency/draft.
He certainly isn't playing up to his contract it seems
Legs are shot or he doesn't train as hard IMO
Reaction time is gone somehow
 
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Doomsday

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He certainly isn't playing up to his contract it seems
Legs are shot or he doesn't train as hard IMO
Reaction time is gone somehow
He will make a decision by mid March. I think he could handle a short season like Gronk did with Tampa Bay, but he can't do a long season again. I think maybe his time is over. Chiefs need youth and speed, size and strength. They paid everybody that got them there and now it's 5 guys taking up over half the salary cap.
 

Chimonos Revenge

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He bailed here when the chiefs got a few funky looking early season gift calls.
Dude had the longest posts, it was funny.

Some say he was the chief bank robber dude
Probably thinking about what his new screen name will be, since he changed it after the last time the CHiefs lost the Superbowl.
But yeah, it's funny that he disapeared here the same week the Chiefs bankrobber guy got sentenced to prison
 

Chimonos Revenge

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He will make a decision by mid March. I think he could handle a short season like Gronk did with Tampa Bay, but he can't do a long season again. I think maybe his time is over. Chiefs need youth and speed, size and strength. They paid everybody that got them there and now it's 5 guys taking up over half the salary cap.
His cap hit is 19.8 million for this coming year. I think I read that if they release him, they save 17 million to the cap. Of course, they could always restructure. He mentally checked out in that game, it wasn't just physical decline.
He gets a 11.5 million roster bonus on March 15th, so we'll see if they cut him loose before then.
 

Chimonos Revenge

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Namath was fucking trash.

He's in the HOF because he played in New York and got hammer drunk while wearing a fur coat and "guaranteed" a win. From that day on it was a media slob fest - up until he got hammer drunk and made a pass at Suzy Kolber on live TV.

In his famous Super Bowl he went 17/28 for 206 yards and exactly 0 TDs. Miraculously he didn't throw an INT - so I'll give him that.
I haven't watched the game, but my guess is Baltimore dropped 3 or 4 them.
The Colts lost a fumble and threw 4 interceptions
Matt Snell had 121 yards rushing for the Jets. It was an ugly, defensive, field position win with a bunch of Field goals for the Jets.

The Colts also missed 2 field goals

So, the Colts turned the ball over 5 times, and missed 2 field goals, and the Jets won 16-7.

Unitas had torn his bicep at the beginning of the year, so didn't play mostly the entire year for the Colts. Earl Morrall started the SB for them, and was so putrid throwing 3 interceptions that they put Unitas back in.
 

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Still though, imagine throwing 50 more intereceptions than Tds in your career and having a career passer rating of 65 and a career record of 62-63-4.....and be considered a hall of famer. You don't even need to compare him to modern QBs, he's just the most over-rated player in the Hall.

It was the Broadway Joe personna that got him in.
 

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Eli was dead even 117 - 117. He was the very definition of a completely mediocre quarterback. He just had 2 great playoff runs, and 2 SB wins that were predicated on 2 nearly improbable plays that would be incomplete passes 999 out of 1000. But he hit on the 1 time it was a completion and won a superbowl.

Eli's greatest feather in his cap was his health and longevity. He played for 16 years, and beside his rookie year, and his last year in which they benched him after 4 games, he played in all 16 games every year. He never got injured.

Even the definition of mediocre Eli Manning threw 120 more TDs than Interceptions in his career though, not 50 less like Broadway Joe (which was horrible even in his era)

Namath threw the 2nd most interceptions of any player during the same time span of his career and once had a 6 interception game.
 
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Chimonos Revenge

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Also, i think Namath still holds the NFL record for most consecutive games with an Interception with like 20.
Don't think anyone has beaten that one, not even the great Jameis Winston
 

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Also, i think Namath still holds the NFL record for most consecutive games with an Interception with like 20.
Don't think anyone has beaten that one, not even the great Jameis Winston
I'll back off my Namath hate when they finally let Ken Amderson in. Anderson was 10x the QB that Namath was - and it's bullshit that he gets overlooked just because he played for a small market team.
 

Chimonos Revenge

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I'll back off my Namath hate when they finally let Ken Amderson in. Anderson was 10x the QB that Namath was - and it's bullshit that he gets overlooked just because he played for a small market team.
Every few years some sporting outlet does a "most over-rated players of all time list" and Namath is almost always #1 or #2. It's just a fact.
He had huge popularity based on off field stuff, commercials, that one horrible biker movie he was in, but was an incredibly over-rated player on the field.
He had the look and personality to be a star.
 

Doomsday

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His cap hit is 19.8 million for this coming year. I think I read that if they release him, they save 17 million to the cap. Of course, they could always restructure. He mentally checked out in that game, it wasn't just physical decline.
He gets a 11.5 million roster bonus on March 15th, so we'll see if they cut him loose before then.
You aren't wrong, it was so bad that it made me wonder if it wasn't a humiliation ritual before he moves on to permanent celebrity status.
 

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Miami is never going to win anything in this day and age, because it's Miami.

That place has always been a cocaine infused shit show....hell, even their coaches have been caught doing cocaine at the facility.
Hill can't keep his dick out of every insta-ho that wants to fuck him.
Their head coach i swear looks like a guy that sells drugs in a dairy queen parking lot.
Their QB is one more hit away from literally dying on the field, or turning into a lobotomy patient.

I think their window is closed udner this regime, personally

They can't win once the temperature gets below 70 degrees anyway.