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SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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did you create this thread so you can feel morally superior to others who dont share your own personal views?
Do you consider any views outside of your own 'personal views' or do you ever defend muslims or any other peoples 'personal views'?
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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How so? I can't follow that train of thought. Calling someone wrong is 'pushing' something? At what level is something right or wrong to you? Does it require a death or is everything okie-dokie as long as someone believes something different than you? Are muslim beliefs ok with you or can you call them wrong?
If you say what someone believes is wrong because they dont agree with you that is a opinion. Believe what you want but when you take a hard line stance that it is absolutely wrong then you are projecting your agenda. I dont know if muslims are wrong anymore than i know my beliefs are right. To call them wrong makes me no better than a jehova that knocks on my door and wants to argue with me about their religion.

For the record my official OPINION is that trumps rhetoric is inflammatory and is continuing the obama policy of race baiting and dividing the country. Most people whether republican or democrat that i know are pretty central leaning but will not give a inch when i comes to giving credit to the other side. Therefore you have this great divide with people voting because of party names rather than issues.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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Believe what you want but when you take a hard line stance that it is absolutely wrong then you are projecting your agenda. I dont know if muslims are wrong anymore than i know my beliefs are right. To call them wrong makes me no better than a jehova that knocks on my door and wants to argue with me about their religion.
This is hyperbole. When you believe an opinion is wrong that is a stance and an opinion. Saying what your opinion is has jack shit to do with projecting anything. Your object is to shut down anybody stating their opinion about something they believe is wrong, which is funny considering your weird definition of freedom of speech. I've done no more than anybody else, given my take on a news story. I'm not on your property, I'm on a message board. Again, you're adding things that really don't equate to the scenario. This isn't your front door, nobody is invading your property, and nobody is forcing anyone into anything. This is discussion on the Internet, you can choose to take part or not.


For the record my official OPINION is that trumps rhetoric is inflammatory and is continuing the obama policy of race baiting and dividing the country. Most people whether republican or democrat that i know are pretty central leaning but will not give a inch when i comes to giving credit to the other side. Therefore you have this great divide with people voting because of party names rather than issues.
You haven't said anything I haven't said. If I see something that looks unamerican to me I will say so. I'm not enslaving anybody to my opinion. I don't think Trump represents us and I think the people supporting him can ignore a lot of the things that the rest of us can't, mostly because we're the targets.
 

ThatOneDude

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So calling her a terrorist with 'you got a bomb' is pretty respectful? Wearing a 'peace to you' shirt is the same as wearing a Hillary 4 Prez shirt?

Her purpose was to show herself as a peaceful Muslim (which she said). It's only others who keep changing this.....
Oh her poor feelings were hurt by words....
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Its like blaming a Giants fan for getting beat up at Dodger Stadium. How fucking dare that fan wear his teams colors!! Lets kick his ass, ese!
So the lady got beat up? A few rednecks made shitty remarks due to her actions. Freedom of speech has already been established for both parties involved. Would you feel the same way if someone wore a kkk robe and hood to a obama rally.
 

jason73

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If they didn't do what they did then what happened to them would have never happened.it is almost like actions have consequences
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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If they didn't do what they did then what happened to them would have never happened.it is almost like actions have consequences
Only if the so called liberal is the one making a statement. The westboro fucks say way worse shit and hijack funerals but there isnt any outrage about that on here and everyone cheers when they get gheir asses kicked.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Do you really think that is a good comparison?
Doesnt matter what anyone thinks. Would liberals act any different if the protestor was a kkk dumbfuck? You think no one would say anything? We are talking about words not assault.
 

Qat

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Doesnt matter what anyone thinks. Would liberals act any different if the protestor was a kkk dumbfuck? You think no one would say anything? We are talking about words not assault.
If you make a comparison to make people think about a situation in a different light (which is something I absolutely approve of), you should be careful to make the comparison as equal as possible. Here I think that is not the case, so it will not matter what the people answer you to that or what you think the liberals would do.

If I go into a Jewish party with a Germany-jersey, I don't expect them to throw me out, it might happen though, who knows.
However, if I go into that party in a SS-costume, then I absolutely deserve it.

Did she come with an ISIS-flag? Nope, so there are differences.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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If you make a comparison to make people think about a situation in a different light (which is something I absolutely approve of), you should be careful to make the comparison as equal as possible. Here I think that is not the case, so it will not matter what the people answer you to that or what you think the liberals would do.

If I go into a Jewish party with a Germany-jersey, I don't expect them to throw me out, it might happen though, who knows.
However, if I go into that party in a SS-costume, then I absolutely deserve it.

Did she come with an ISIS-flag? Nope, so there are differences.
Its not about what you expect or deserve. Freedom of speech, unfortunately, pertains to all parties. She was allowed into the rally, it wasnt untill she chose to become a problem that she was asked to leave. What YOU personally think is right or wrong has no bearing on this. The people holding the rally have the right to refuse service and ask you to leave. The people yelling at her, again fucking idiots, have every right to do that. The laws and rights of Americans dont nust pertain to people you agree with.

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Hwoarang

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Q @Qat if at this Jewish party, they asked everyone to sit down and listen for the speeches, and you refused and stood up protesting the speeches, it doesn't matter what the fuk you're wearing, they can ask you to leave for being a knob"

And the fact that the vid starts off "several protesters were taken out including one Muslim woman" shows that's this is just more agenda driven bullshit by the media
 

Qat

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Its not about what you expect or deserve. Freedom of speech, unfortunately, pertains to all parties. She was allowed into the rally, it wasnt untill she chose to become a problem that she was asked to leave. What YOU personally think is right or wrong has no bearing on this. The people holding the rally have the right to refuse service and ask you to leave. The people yelling at her, again fucking idiots, have every right to do that. The laws and rights of Americans dont nust pertain to people you agree with.

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Well, here its forbidden to don the swastika anyway, so it would be against the law. Just for info, doesn't matter.

I don't think anyone is saying it was unlawful. You can still have opinions on it if that is a behaviour you approve or not, and a behaviour you want to see of people in your society.

Hwoarang @Hwoarang
I have no fighter in that fight, I was just talking about the comparison to a person in KKK-robes at a Obama-rally. I don't think it fits.

But personally a lot of what I see and hear of Trump does reek of demagogy. Whether he really means it or not does not matter to me. This incident does not speak to that, but it does show that he caters to some people with an extreme attitude.

And I'm not trying to apologize for the woman. I too think this is a small thing that is getting blown way out of proportion.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Well, here its forbidden to don the swastika anyway, so it would be against the law. Just for info, doesn't matter.

I don't think anyone is saying it was unlawful. You can still have opinions on it if that is a behaviour you approve or not, and a behaviour you want to see of people in your society.

Hwoarang @Hwoarang
I have no fighter in that fight, I was just talking about the comparison to a person in KKK-robes at a Obama-rally. I don't think it fits.

But personally a lot of what I see and hear of Trump does reek of demagogy. Whether he really means it or not does not matter to me. This incident does not speak to that, but it does show that he caters to some people with an extreme attitude.

And I'm not trying to apologize for the woman. I too think this is a small thing that is getting blown way out of proportion.
I agree with you but while the American public and media is concentrating on this N Korea is detonating hydrogen bombs. Where is the outrage over this?
 

Qat

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I agree with you but while the American public and media is concentrating on this N Korea is detonating hydrogen bombs. Where is the outrage over this?
Yep, well, not a lot clicks and views to gather there, no controversy about it to be had. Everybody is on the same page.
Its similar in our media, biggest topics here currently are the cologne-thing, which is understandable, and Poland's seemingly transition towards a totalitarian state. This shit is quite worrying.
But people don't seem to be really worried about North Korea, or just think we are powerless there anyway. In a way, we are.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Yep, well, not a lot clicks and views to gather there, no controversy about it to be had. Everybody is on the same page.
Its similar in our media, biggest topics here currently are the cologne-thing, which is understandable, and Poland's seemingly transition towards a totalitarian state. This shit is quite worrying.
But people don't seem to be really worried about North Korea, or just think we are powerless there anyway. In a way, we are.
I dont think world leaders have done ebough to curb N Korea and now we are building reactors in Iran. This is actually happening in real life. Trump is just a blowhard running for president.
 

Qat

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I dont think world leaders have done ebough to curb N Korea and now we are building reactors in Iran. This is actually happening in real life. Trump is just a blowhard running for president.
Well, your president is, at least outwards, the most powerful man on the globe, that’s nothing to sneeze at.

I guess my stance on Iran and their nuclear program is different to yours, and I believe your media, and ours too, tried very hard to paint them as evil, but lets not derail this thread.

And with North Korea, well, what do you wanna do about it? Make a thread if you got ideas. ;)