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I hear this term a lot now. It seems to imply that if you're born with white skin, you automatically have a huge advantage over people who weren't born with white skin. Macklemore apparently wrote a song about it and offended some people.

What says you? Do you believe in white privilege? To what degree?

What do you do to "check" your white privilege?

I live in a place with very little racial diversity, so I really don't have much of a frame of reference.
 
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Yes it's real.

Court system give preferential treatment to white people.
I'm a tall white male. I will get jobs interview offers, etc before almost anybody else in the USA.

I have not personally benefitted, but at a population level white people start life with considerably higher wealth through things like land ownership that can be directly traced back to 1950s and before. At that time deeds were written to explicitly state that black people and others could not hold that land and that you could not sell that land to them.

So even with a college education, same income, the equal white person starts life off with an inheritance waiting in the wings. White daughters, despite their job or educational status, are much more likely than anybody else to receive financial gifts and support from their families well into adulthood and even after getting married. So life again is being subsidized via the previous generation, when all else is equal.


But check it? Lmao.
That's just some bullshit Twitterverse to have a short way to dumb down calling people out.

My only job as the privileged is to make sure that I continue to advocate for a reasonably fair system going forward. I owe nobody guilt for this position as the online debates usually imply.
 

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I have not personally benefitted, but at a population level white people start life with considerably higher wealth through things like land ownership that can be directly traced back to 1950s and before. At that time deeds were written to explicitly state that black people and others could not hold that land and that you could not sell that land to them.
Damn, that's some real nasty shit.

So do you agree with things like reparations, affirmative action, ect as a way of balancing things out after these kinds of injustices?



Why would the mods lock this thread? To stifle the spread of information about white privilege no doubt. #Checkyourprivilege
 

Lord Vutulaki

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Yes it's real.

Court system give preferential treatment to white people.
I'm a tall white male. I will get jobs interview offers, etc before almost anybody else in the USA.
Interesting, this disparity also occurs in medicine? Is it more in private practice than say the hospital system?


So even with a college education, same income, the equal white person starts life off with an inheritance waiting in the wings. White daughters, despite their job or educational status, are much more likely than anybody else to receive financial gifts and support from their families well into adulthood and even after getting married. So life again is being subsidized via the previous generation, when all else is equal.
Isnt this more of a "white benefit" than privilege? Also the richest median household income ethnicities arent all white, here's the top 5 (wiki)

  1. Indian American : $101,591[2]
  2. Taiwanese American : $85,566[2]
  3. Filipino American : $82,389[2]
  4. Australian American : $76,095[3]
  5. Latvian American : $76,040[3]

German Americans come in at number 44.


But check it? Lmao.
That's just some bullshit Twitterverse to have a short way to dumb down calling people out.

My only job as the privileged is to make sure that I continue to advocate for a reasonably fair system going forward. I owe nobody guilt for this position as the online debates usually imply.
Well said, as a non white person I find the idea of white guilt to be redundant at best, if I look at my kids playmates who are white its fucking insane to think that they should grow up feeling bad about Captain Cook and Co did hundreds of years ago. Total bullshit eh

I reckon theres no white privilege in Australia and New Zealand, the white privilege Ive encountered is in South East Asia. In the Pacific Islands whites are respected on an individual basis but no one gives a fuck about their technical advancements like asians do.
 

La Paix

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Interesting, this disparity also occurs in medicine? Is it more in private practice than say the hospital system?




Isnt this more of a "white benefit" than privilege? Also the richest median household income ethnicities arent all white, here's the top 5 (wiki)

  1. Indian American : $101,591[2]
  2. Taiwanese American : $85,566[2]
  3. Filipino American : $82,389[2]
  4. Australian American : $76,095[3]
  5. Latvian American : $76,040[3]

German Americans come in at number 44.




Well said, as a non white person I find the idea of white guilt to be redundant at best, if I look at my kids playmates who are white its fucking insane to think that they should grow up feeling bad about Captain Cook and Co did hundreds of years ago. Total bullshit eh

I reckon theres no white privilege in Australia and New Zealand, the white privilege Ive encountered is in South East Asia. In the Pacific Islands whites are respected on an individual basis but no one gives a fuck about their technical advancements like asians do.
Perhaps thread title should have "in USA/North America" added?
 

La Paix

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It's just assumed we're talking about USA/Canada. Who cares what's going on anywhere else?
No doubt on threads intentions going forward. Once a few other posters who can't resist the urge to toss gas on these topics join in it'll probably get locked up like others of its kind. In the mean time play nice and have fun
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Ted Williams' head

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Got some good thoughtful input by Splinty and Vutulaki. I think if people are too immature and want to derail it for some reason, they should be the ones punished.

Maybe they can be made to have a silly name or avatar for a week.
 

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Depends where you're at.

It's this way all over planet earth for every people.
 

La Paix

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Ah shit sorry but at least some of what I was saying applies to America, look at the income ranking by ethnicity.
I liked your post but just feel the topic at hand was presented without considering the rest of the planet, you gave some good info.
 

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No doubt on threads intentions going forward. Once a few other posters who can't resist the urge to toss gas on these topics join in it'll probably get locked up like others of its kind. In the mean time play nice and have fun
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I just sent Emmery Meyers a tweet. He will be arriving shortly to put everyone's privilege in check.
 
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So do you agree with things like reparations, affirmative action, ect as a way of balancing things out after these kinds of injustices?
I agree in investments that are selected towards the worst off in our society.
In Texas for instance, schools are funded by local property taxes.
My friend works for a land insurance company researching deeds and I've seen these things that stopped blacks from owning land when my father was a young man.
So here I am in a state that says "the bigger your house and land, the more property tax you pay, the better your schools are" and can't help but draw a direct line from a 50 year old system of wealth accumulation and the cycle of poor education, bad jobs, more crime, more poverty, worse education...

Reparations don't look like cash to me. And affirmative action awarding extra point for diverse background is fine, meaning it becomes a tie breaker and not a quota system.
In medical school, our administration was very open about the implementation of affirmative action on our campus, showing before and after breakdown of our class. We were in majority hispanic region that our school served. After affirmative action the class makeup looked like the geography we were serving, with higher test scores on licensing exams. So that seems a good implementation.

Isnt this more of a "white benefit" than privilege? Also the richest median household income ethnicities arent all white, here's the top 5 (wiki)
Tell me the difference in your meaning? But I think its semantics.

By simply being white my father could own land in Texas in neighborhoods that blacks couldn't (that was his privilege for which I could have benefited) . White guy grows up with that direct link to an environment of lower crime, better schools, better socioeconomic connections, less likely to get arrested for the same drug use, more likely to get an interview due to white name, etc.


Asians break a ton of the talk here. They are selected against in things like affirmative action because their success and stereotypes
Most of this is a black/white issue in the structural sense if you want to talk education, jobs, class mobility.
Asians suffer in more subjective cultural ways or with "positive" stereotypes. Asian guys being seen as less masculine, small dicks, smart and hard working, false asian if you aren't those things, etc. But that's probably another topic.


Interesting, this disparity also occurs in medicine? Is it more in private practice than say the hospital system?
It does.
As above, regarding classes and affirmative action, and a slight different conversation, women are better students, do better than men at life sciences, and being a white or asian woman applying to med school is a "current disadvantage" because there are 832904820394823 of you down the hall waiting with the same story and life experiences.

But directly related to white and black in the medical setting, lets skip the obvious with shit insurance due to poverty.
There is good evidence that black patients are rated by nurses to be in less pain than white patients, and as such receive significantly less pain medications in the hospital. This has been studied well in ER and inpatient settings.
There's a million other stats, but I have forgotten most of them. The short is that in a ton of small, even unconscious ways, the medical system does not care for black patients with the same level of care as white patients.