White privilege?
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Some white people are really so conceited as to think they're capable of shedding their instincts and everyone else is playing them along or also duped by this notion.
Would you advocate to the First Nations that, just because their people lived here originally, doesn't mean the rest of us have to give a damn?
So are you saying that people who presently live in a geographic location, presumably successfully, would do well to disregard and reject the conventions and customs that gave rise to the present?
Would you advocate to the First Nations that, just because their people lived here originally, doesn't mean the rest of us have to give a damn?
No, but it does mean I don't have to think living in a yurt is better than living in a house. Culture is in a constant state of reinvention. It is completely arbitrary that people at a certain latitude and longitude on the map behave a certain way. You choose to be who you are based on who's there now, not who has been there or who has dominated.
This isn't entirely true none of us are immune to cultural inputs from place. The history and events of a place is what informs local perspective and builds culture. Local culture informs individual thought, even when we intellectualise beyond that.
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Okay, if I understand you correctly, when it comes to Native American culture, you would not be against them maintaining and reviving their culture despite the invasion and subsequent devastation of the European invasion and the dominant culture at present should respect (whatever that means is up for debate and I certainly have no answers as to what "respecting a culture" means) what was once present.
Yes/No/Kind of?
If we did that the Native Americans would starve since there would be no one to play bingo or gamble at their casinos. The reservations are completely reliant on old whitenpeople gambling and fatties at the buffets.
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If we did what?
Revive their culture. Thought you meant do the same thing they did in Africa when they kicked the whites out.
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Life isn't fair. Bitch about it, or get to work making it better for yourself. No one else will. Pretty shitty, but pretty simple.
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Ah, what I was trying to talk about is their revival of their own culture, i.e. language and subsequent oral traditions along with traditional methods of hunting and food preparation and of course expression through song and dance.
Yea my bad. From what i understand they are pretty much automomous on the reservations and can do that now. Problem is if they claimed more land. Alot of people live subsistently in the US now so its not unheard of. Following migration patterns of their ancestors would be the biggest problem with them trying to live completely traditional.
Also the Navajo language was a huge benefit to us fighting the Japanese during WW2. They had no clue how to break that code or even what it was.
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That's an interesting point regarding migration patterns, I had never really heard of that as a potentially modern issue but it is interesting to consider. I'm originally from Canada btw so some aspects of First Nations legislation will be different, that being said the root causes of their cultural and heritage losses are identical on either side of the border.
Africa kicked the whites out? lol. Uh.... when did that happen?
- Leaving is not the same as "kicked out": "approximately two thirds of the white population left Zimbabwe. However, many white people resolved to stay in the new Zimbabwe. Only one third of the white farming community left."
- Zimbabwe is not "Africa".....
1. Look a bit closer, they were very much encouraged to GTFO.
2. Of course not. Now you're making strawmen.
Taking their land (wrongfully) is a far cry from "kicking them out". Many chose to stay and still stay today.
It's not a strawman to say what happened in one country is not representative of 53 other countries - which is basically what he said...
It's not a strawman to say what happened in one country is not representative of 53 other countries - which is basically what he said...
Mugabe and Idi Amin ring any bells brother?
First paragraph I'll leave alone.
Second paragraph I agree with, however a lot of people do not recognize the diversity of Africa. Which while ignorant is not intellectually dishonest. Which is what you were being.