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Lord Vutulaki

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Right but that's not comparing monetary cost. I'm still unsure what laws you're referring to.
Replace laws with system of justice. Maybe they were counting on not getting caught for the murder part?

In Australia id have to pay less for their treatment too since they're dead but morals aside id be way too worried about getting done for murder to even contemplate saving a quid by reversing over them.

What is it about china's legal framework (if anything ) that encourages people to think that way?

Make sense?
 

PrideRules

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yo @Vutulaki , have you seen america's walmart videos? every culture has its hood rats. i try not to judge an entire race based on a few videos.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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yo @Vutulaki , have you seen america's walmart videos? every culture has its hood rats. i try not to judge an entire race based on a few videos.

Nah man poor strawman at best you're comparing the bottom.of American society with middle class China.

I see what you're trying to say there but it doesn't compute my friend.
 

Leigh

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Replace laws with system of justice. Maybe they were counting on not getting caught for the murder part?

In Australia id have to pay less for their treatment too since they're dead but morals aside id be way too worried about getting done for murder to even contemplate saving a quid by reversing over them.

What is it about china's legal framework (if anything ) that encourages people to think that way?

Make sense?
No, it doesn't make sense. The legal framework seems fine (superficially), it's the shitty culture of money over people.
 

diet butcher

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Noone despises mainland Chinese more than Hong Kong Chinese. There were riots last year cuz thousands of them were flooding the city everyday doing shit like you see in that video. It got to a point where mainlanders flying through HK airport had to hold signs saying they're not staying in HK to avoid getting beat up. lol
 

Hwoarang

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Replace laws with system of justice. Maybe they were counting on not getting caught for the murder part?

In Australia id have to pay less for their treatment too since they're dead but morals aside id be way too worried about getting done for murder to even contemplate saving a quid by reversing over them.

What is it about china's legal framework (if anything ) that encourages people to think that way?

Make sense?
I don't think it's to do with laws.
It's to do with the culture/upbringing having a lack of empathy and holding the value of a stranger's life very cheaply.
Look at what happens when people are badly injured or a toddler walks on the highway in China, people just totally ignore them and keep on going about their day, because their day is more important than potentially saving another person's life. They don't give a fuk about anyone else. Western countries seem to care more about their fellow man,I would think most people wouldn't finish off a fellow human been just for monetary benefit here, (you're just a unique kind of wanker ;) ).
 

Lord Vutulaki

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No, it doesn't make sense. The legal framework seems fine (superficially), it's the shitty culture of money over people.
Fair enough.

I heard the reason people dont help others in distress there is because the law will hold you accountable to their injuries, im looking it up now, you heard of this? there was talk of it when everyone was questioning why passers by tend not to help people in distress over there when that toddler getting run over video came out.

I had a staff member from Beijing who got upset when people blamed the population being so big when that video came out, she said it was for the above reason. Im searching for info now but that doesnt seem like a sound legal system even superficially.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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"You may have heard the stories like Death of Wang Yue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia where it's apparent Chinese people don't care about those in need on the street.

There's a reason. My friend's parents, who are relatively well off, were driving when they accidentally hit a cyclist when they opened the door. The woman on the cyclist was taken to the hospital, and my friend's dad paid for her medical expenses, paid for her food and drinks, apologized profusely, and even offered help to her family.

Turns out, that woman was from a relatively poor family, with no job. So now, even though the hospital has cleared her to leave, she refuses by blackmailing them - pay me X dollars, or I will spread rumors about you at work.

Bad part is, the friend's family can't even sue her. In China, both parties have to agree to be in court, in order to file a lawsuit. So now that lady is basically living off them until they give in to her blackmail.

And that's PART of the reason why Chinese people are wary to help injured people on the streets. The moment you try to help them, they blackmail you, or sue that you were the one who caused them to be hurt in the first place."

Interesting Reddit thread on it. (Mods Ill delete the link if you want)

Why Chinese passerbys don't help those in need on the street • /r/China
 

Anastasios

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Had any of those Wang Yue criminals been around me and gotten off with a lax 3.5 year sentence for murder, there would have been grave consequences.
 

Team Bisping

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Was out in China in December, never saw this kind of behaviour once. Though there driving leaves a lot to be desired.
 

Leigh

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Fair enough.

I heard the reason people dont help others in distress there is because the law will hold you accountable to their injuries, im looking it up now, you heard of this? there was talk of it when everyone was questioning why passers by tend not to help people in distress over there when that toddler getting run over video came out.

I had a staff member from Beijing who got upset when people blamed the population being so big when that video came out, she said it was for the above reason. Im searching for info now but that doesnt seem like a sound legal system even superficially.
I have. Don't know how true it is.

"Turns out, that woman was from a relatively poor family, with no job. So now, even though the hospital has cleared her to leave, she refuses by blackmailing them - pay me X dollars, or I will spread rumors about you at work.
I don't know for sure but this story sounds like extreme bullshit. What a lame blackmail. Some gutter urchin spreading rumours about me at work? Who gives a fuck? And that threat has nothing to do with hitting the woman with their car. Anyone could make that same threat.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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I have. Don't know how true it is.



I don't know for sure but this story sounds like extreme bullshit. What a lame blackmail. Some gutter urchin spreading rumours about me at work? Who gives a fuck? And that threat has nothing to do with hitting the woman with their car. Anyone could make that same threat.
Who knows how their minds work.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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Ok but again, that story isn't a criticism on the law (other than you can't sue, which also sounds made up)
Yeah I suppose youre right, its the culture, I cant read Chinese so cant really look into the laws over there. You cant blame the everyday Chinese though, a wise man once said Confucius + Chairman Mao no good for a society.
 

ThatOneDude

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Are these the same people who believe rhino horns will give them strong American like boners?
 

Bluesville

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Haven't seen anything like this yet.

They make a lot of nasty noises when they eat though.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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Haven't seen anything like this yet.

They make a lot of nasty noises when they eat though.
I think it may be where they are from in China. Same goes for India, people in Varanasi bathe in their own shit, Delhi folk shit all over the place but down in say Kerala they are massive clean freaks. Huge populations with a huge amount of diversity I reckon.
 

Hwoarang

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"You may have heard the stories like Death of Wang Yue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia where it's apparent Chinese people don't care about those in need on the street.
"While media outlets reported on the perceived Chinese apathy in the aftermath of Wang Yue's death, another incident occurred in Hangzhou when a Chinese woman attempted suicide by drowning in a lake, while local Chinese bystanders gathered at the edge of the lake to watch. After noticing that no one was attempting to rescue the woman, a Uruguayan visitor to China named Maria Fernanda Gomez Arregui swam into the water and saved the woman from drowning.[21] Chinese government officials announced that Maria Fernanda would receive a cash reward of 3000 yuan for her heroic display of "traditional Chinese virtues"."

LMAO!