Sucks for Maldanado....I hope they find him a decent replacement.
Rampage NOT fighting at UFC 186
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Oh, too bad. This was completely unpredictable on UFC's part. They had no way of knowing for the past month this fight may not happen. In fact, this is completely Bellator's fault for not directly notifying UFC's customers more than a month ago that Rampage was still under contract. I'm completely disgusted with Bellator's bully behavior and taking total advantage of Zuffa's battle fatigued legal team.
I blame Bellator first, Rampage second, and UFC last. Dana White is the victim here and I will support him by buying this PPV.
edit: this post was a joke
I blame Bellator first, Rampage second, and UFC last. Dana White is the victim here and I will support him by buying this PPV.
edit: this post was a joke
This thread may change your mind
Zuffa statement on Rampage injunction... get /facepalm ready | The MMA Community Forum
Thus far, UFC has only offered refunds in states that have rules in place that force them to.
I don't expect this policy to change anytime soon, and Montreal (or anywhere in Canada) is known to be fertile ground for UFC bait and switch grifting.
Certain major fight commissions' bylaws do provide for a refund in the case of a change to the main or the co-main event, but not in Canada.
Based on their statement, they "Took Rampage's word for it, that they were in breach of his contract" do whatever math you feel is needed from that.
ZUFFA entered into a situation they knew was going to take time to sort out, and put him on a card knowing full well an injunction was going to come down. Unless of course Zuffa has the worst lawyers in the entire world, which you know, I'm sure is possible.
I hope they pay his ass if he doesnt get to fight, show and win money
I got a refund for my tickets when the first DC vs Jones fell apart. Pretty sure it was the UFC giving it but I also oayed the extra $25 for some sort of insurance iirc.
Did they get a title fight to replace that fight? I've been told they don't do refunds when they can replace a lost title fight with another, or if there was two title fights to begin with and the card only lost one.
I talked to my brother on the phone last night and one of the mma discussions we had was on this subject. I know sometimes he has a different view and wanted his take on it. I told him that a 'theory' was that Zuffa purposely tried to sign him based on the monopoly lawsuit so that Zuffa could purposely lose Rampage back to Bellator and use it as an example of, "see, we're not a monopoly, we tried to get one of our old stars back but the promotion he's under took us to court and won".
When I told my brother, my brother's response was that he finds it very hard to believe that a big organization like Zuffa who has been in the game longer than anyone, wouldn't go over every detail of his contract with a fine tooth comb to make sure everything is on the up and up before signing him. He said it was very out of character of UFC to not do their research and pointed out that UFC hires some of the best lawyers.
I tend to believe UFC completely knew Bellator had rights to Rampage's contract, and UFC has no loyalty owed to Rampage to drag him through this. I think UFC saw this as a good opportunity to give them ground on their monopoly lawsuit.
Thoughts?
Yep that's pretty much the view going on about this, we probably won't know the truth unless we're told about them using it in their lawsuit defence, because as we know, the reporters are not likely to ask or Kim Jong Clean will blow his stack.
I'd just like to point out that Rampage and the UFC have not lost the lawsuit, yet. There was merely an injunction against Rampage competing for the UFC until the lawsuit is completed. To get that injunction that had to show that Rampage competing for the UFC, posed a substantial threat of irreparable damages, that the balance of harm weighs in their favour and that they have a likelihood of winning the case. Rampage may very well still end up with the UFC.
Well, losing the injunction isn't a good sign. The smart money would be with you, I'd think.
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this won't help the ufc. the lawsuit is dealing from around 2006, through now. this is something that king of the cage could do with their contracts. this is something any minor league promotion could do.
I think since this isn't last minute, that they will just find him a replacement fight. Easier fight than Rampage but the same $$.
i saw it in a local museum. it was great stuff.
that thread should make it in to the photoshop section along with the other couple photoshop threads that we had so it has a few more topics.
The main counter to this is the statement, "The UFC organization was surprised about the ruling because Mr. Jackson represented to UFC on multiple occasions that he was free to negotiate and contract with UFC", nothing about this whole thing seems cut and dry as an action to re-lock up someone that can hurt them (which is debatable at this point with how whiny and disgruntled Rampage is) this to me, is either totally about the lawsuit (which has valid counter arguments) OR a third strategy, playing Rampage into a position where he doesn't want to fight for Bellator and CAN'T fight for the UFC and ends up essentially in limbo like Wanderlei in the reverse position (but for a non PED testing reason) where the UFC would probably rather he be based on his attitude and difficulty to deal with him, neutralized completely for good.
They seem to be suggesting they did no due diligence over and above Rampage telling them he was a free agent which for Zuffa is patently absurd to consider possible. To me that is a facetious statement with an ulterior motive where they knew this injunction was coming. They either want this legal battle for what it ends up providing in arguments elsewhere for them or they want to make Rampage retire from limbo status and his age/lacking remaining motivation IMO. At the very most they expected to get this Maldonado fight out of him and then the legal limbo would begin for him.
You are speaking of motives as to why the UFC contracted Rampage. I was merely pointing out the lawsuit isn't lost quite yet.
Yeah the language sort of confused me but I in regards to your last line in the statement I'm just not sure they even want that to happen.
I agree, the UFC knows full well what was gonna happen, they are as non straight as they come. I wouldnt doubt if your theory is right on the money.