Cowherd: Conor vs Floyd, Sep 17th

[Wild]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3wCv2yYrY


Yesterday on his podcast "The Herd," Fox Sports host Colin Cowherd said that the fight is going to be made and the news will be broken in a couple of weeks. Cowherd claimed knowledge from multiple sources scheduling the bout for mid-September in Las Vegas, Nev..

"News I believe is gonna break here in about 2 weeks...I have already booked two rooms, September 17th and 18th in Las Vegas. My intel is Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather is going to happen. It changed late last week. I got a call then somebody else sent me something [Sunday] and Saturday. We've booked rooms in Vegas. [It's happening] this September."

As it stands this is the most interesting new bit of information on the bout so far (which, granted, isn't saying much). Though not exactly a breaking news reporter, Cowherd has worked in sports media long enough to have made substantial connections and he also works for Fox who is deeply integrated with the UFC. Claiming multiple sources have given him substantive information on the topic is absolutely plausible and at the minimum seems more reliable than the vague posturing done by McGregor and Mayweather themselves. This is also the first time a concrete date has been suggested for the bout which, coupled with the multiple sources, lends an air of credibility to Cowherd's statements.

Cowherd goes on to hint at what precipitated the "change" late last week which, according to him, has made this fight a reality.

"Mayweather did have a very bad last pay per view gate - 550,000 people, he tries to get 2 to 3 million. So I think this is the most profitable fight for CBS and Mayweather. CBS has been working with Mayweather for years. That's why his fights are on Showtime, because CBS owns Showtime.

"So Les Moonves [President and CEO of CBS] and the CBS peeps have decided, 'let's talk to the Fox - UFC peeps' and you've got Fox and CBS, you've got UFC, you've got boxing, you've got Floyd, you've got Conor. It's gonna make a lot of money for people."

LINK: Morning Report: Colin Cowherd says the Mayweather vs. McGregor fight is happening this fall

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

Hopefully Nate didn't demand his way out of a money fight. This one is looking more and more likely as new information surfaces. I feel like a mark, but I am starting to think this might happen.

 

[MMAHAWK]

Please explain to me how a commission that nixed Hunt vs Butterbean due to lack of experience. Is going to sanction one of the greatest boxers to ever live vs a guy without a single pro fight.

 

[StillReal]

Please explain to me how a commission that nixed Hunt vs Butterbean due to lack of experience. Is going to sanction one of the greatest boxers to ever live vs a guy without a single pro fight.

That has been what I've been wondering this whole time

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

Please explain to me how a commission that nixed Hunt vs Butterbean due to lack of experience. Is going to sanction one of the greatest boxers to ever live vs a guy without a single pro fight.

The only thing that I can think of is the weight difference. Butterbean could literally kill a man. Floyd is a bit less dangerous. I am not saying that it is justified or anything, I am just trying to find a reason aside from them changing their mind. I had no idea that Hunt vs Butterbean was a potential matchup. It was the Nevada commission?

Also, Floyd has a looooot of power in Nevada. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

 

[MMAHAWK]

The only thing that I can think of is the weight difference. Butterbean could literally kill a man. Floyd is a bit less dangerous. I am not saying that it is justified or anything, I am just trying to find a reason aside from them changing their mind. I had no idea that Hunt vs Butterbean was a potential matchup. It was the Nevada commission?

Also, Floyd has a looooot of power in Nevada. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

yes they we supposed to fight ay pride 32 in vegas. They pulled Hunt and replaced him with Sean O'haire. They claimed Hunt had an unfair mat advantage over butterbean. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

yes they we supposed to fight ay pride 32 in vegas. They pulled Hunt and replaced him with Sean O'haire. They claimed Hunt had an unfair mat advantage over butterbean. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

Oh wait this was supposed to be an MMA fight? I can see the difference there now. In the Floyd vs Conor proposed boxing match, at least they both train boxing regularly. Imo it is a lot more dangerous for a boxer to try MMA with no experience than it is for an MMA fighter to try boxing.

 

[teamquestnorth]

yes they we supposed to fight ay pride 32 in vegas. They pulled Hunt and replaced him with Sean O'haire. They claimed Hunt had an unfair mat advantage over butterbean. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

That would have been a fun fight

 

[MMAHAWK]

Oh wait this was supposed to be an MMA fight? I can see the difference there now. In the Floyd vs Conor proposed boxing match, at least they both train boxing regularly. Imo it is a lot more dangerous for a boxer to try MMA with no experience than it is for an MMA fighter to try boxing.

I don't know that I agree with you but the Bean had 9 mma fights going into that bout. This bout would be no different than GSP vs CM punk IMO.

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

I don't know that I agree with you but the Bean had 9 mma fights going into that bout. This bout would be no different than GSP vs CM punk IMO.

Were they pro fights?

So you are telling me that Conor McGregor, who has been training boxing since he was a teenager, fighting Floyd Mayweather, a 145 lb defensive boxer, would be in the same amount of danger as CM Punk, a guy who has trained MMA for a year, fighting Georges St. Pierre?

I think we both know that you don't mean that.

Kicks, elbows and knees + MMA gloves= a substantial amount of more danger, especially to someone who has VERY minimal training. I am not saying that Conor stands a chance against Floyd, but let's not pretend that it would be the same thing as CM Punk fighting a exponentially more complex sport with a year and some change of practice.

 

[Left Hook Larry]

Please explain to me how a commission that nixed Hunt vs Butterbean due to lack of experience. Is going to sanction one of the greatest boxers to ever live vs a guy without a single pro fight.

money talks

 

[MMAHAWK]

Were they pro fights?

So you are telling me that Conor McGregor, who has been training boxing since he was a teenager, fighting Floyd Mayweather, a 145 lb defensive boxer, would be in the same amount of danger as CM Punk, a guy who has trained MMA for a year, fighting Georges St. Pierre?

I think we both know that you don't mean that.

Kicks, elbows and knees + MMA gloves= a substantial amount of more danger, especially to someone who has VERY minimal training. I am not saying that Conor stands a chance against Floyd, but let's not pretend that it would be the same thing as CM Punk fighting a exponentially more complex sport with a year and some change of practice.

I think they would both be extreme mismatches and a disgrace to each sport. Floyd should be no less than a -5000 favorite at the very least. And based off of the death statistics of each sport I don;t necessarly agree that Punk would be in more danger.

 

[member 3289]

Wolf tickets

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

I think they would both be extreme mismatches and a disgrace to each sport. Floyd should be no less than a -5000 favorite at the very least. And based off of the death statistics of each sport I don;t necessarly agree that Punk would be in more danger.

I agree regarding them both being mismatches. That's obvious to everyone involved.

So, to be clear, you still think that CM Punk fighting GSP is the same as Conor fighting Floyd? It is your opinion that Conor's 15 years of boxing training is the same as CM Punks year and some change of MMA training?

 

[Left Hook Larry]

another freakshow fight. conor has nothing in a boxing match. theres no rule set that makes it even. conor wins in kickboxing and mma floyd wins in boxing.

 

[Kingtony87]

I could be eating crow.... But

 

[Kingtony87]

I agree regarding them both being mismatches. That's obvious to everyone involved.

So, to be clear, you still think that CM Punk fighting GSP is the same as Conor fighting Floyd? It is your opinion that Conor's 15 years of boxing training is the same as CM Punks year and some change of MMA training?

To be fair they are probably equally as dangerous. I mean there's a good chance either way it goes to decision. Know what I'm saying

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

To be fair they are probably equally as dangerous. I mean there's a good chance either way it goes to decision. Know what I'm saying

Is that just a knock on GSP's lay n pray style or do you really think that? Haha

 

[Zeph]

Please explain to me how a commission that nixed Hunt vs Butterbean due to lack of experience. Is going to sanction one of the greatest boxers to ever live vs a guy without a single pro fight.

It will also make too much money for too many people.

 

[1031]

the dude acts like he's trying to convince everyone he's normal.
a lot of things he says is stuff that someone else always seems to have said elsewhere.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

The only thing that makes me think this fight might happen is the money involved. This is BIG MONEY for everyone involved, including the commissions and Vegas itself. I don't think they're going to let a little thing like INTEGRITY get in the way of 9 figures. I thought that this would never happen but now I'm convinced it will.

I'm sure they will cite Conor's champion status as a professional prizefighter. This is largely unprecedented, but stranger things have happened in boxing.

Pete Rademacher famously fought for the world heavyweight championship in his debut fight (and got destroyed by Floyd Patterson). Pete was an Olympic boxing gold medalist who claimed he could whip Patterson in his first pro fight, so they set it up. Now obviously going from amateur boxing to pro boxing is a lot smoother than MMA to pro boxing, but TECHNICALLY Pete had absolutely no right to be in there.

Vasyl Lomachenko fought for an international world title in his debut and a legit world title in his second fight. Vasyl is a 2-time Olympic gold medalist and possibly the greatest amateur talent of all time, but still TECHNICALLY he shouldn't have gotten those shots so quickly.

And those two examples didn't have NEARLY the amount of money at stake. Again, obviously those guys were much more suited to go into a big pro fight, but I imagine the commissions will work some magic.

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

The only thing that makes me think this fight might happen is the money involved. This is BIG MONEY for everyone involved, including the commissions and Vegas itself. I don't think they're going to let a little thing like INTEGRITY get in the way of 9 figures. I thought that this would never happen but now I'm convinced it will.

I'm sure they will cite Conor's champion status as a professional prizefighter. This is largely unprecedented, but stranger things have happened in boxing.

Pete Rademacher famously fought for the world heavyweight championship in his debut fight (and got destroyed by Floyd Patterson). Pete was an Olympic boxing gold medalist who claimed he could whip Patterson in his first pro fight, so they set it up. Now obviously going from amateur boxing to pro boxing is a lot smoother than MMA to pro boxing, but TECHNICALLY Pete had absolutely no right to be in there.

Vasyl Lomachenko fought for an international world title in his debut and a legit world title in his second fight. Vasyl is a 2-time Olympic gold medalist and possibly the greatest amateur talent of all time, but still TECHNICALLY he shouldn't have gotten those shots so quickly.

And those two examples didn't have NEARLY the amount of money at stake. Again, obviously those guys were much more suited to go into a big pro fight, but I imagine the commissions will work some magic.

I don't understand how making this fight indicates a lack of integrity. Think of it this way- even you admit that this fight will make an ungodly amount of money. Why is that? It's because people want to see the spectacle. What is the purpose of sports aside from entertaining the public? If this fight does the numbers that you and I both think it will, that means that the masses expect to be entertained, and the bout serves its purpose, which is the only true purpose in professional sports.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

I don't understand how making this fight indicates a lack of integrity. Think of it this way- even you admit that this fight will make an ungodly amount of money. Why is that? It's because people want to see the spectacle. What is the purpose of sports aside from entertaining the public? If this fight does the numbers that you and I both think it will, that means that the masses expect to be entertained, and the bout serves its purpose, which is the only true purpose in professional sports.

It lacks integrity because UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should a man who has never even had one pro boxing fight be sanctioned to fight the greatest boxer of all time. It shows a complete disregard for Conor's safety. He's going to go in there against a guy who's been a world champion since 1998 and he's going to get punched in the face until his brain shuts off or the referee rescues him. This is going to be a slaughter.

 

[Tiiimmmaaayyy]

If Colin says it, I tend to believe him. He doesn't follow MMA much, but he has been in sports for many years. He followed boxing closely during its heyday. I'm sure he still has many reliable contacts from that world. Colin has always been a straight shooter and doesn't say outlandish shit just for ratings. If he's reporting its happening, he had been told by mutiple, credible, sources that it's happening.

 

[1031]

I don't understand how making this fight indicates a lack of integrity. Think of it this way- even you admit that this fight will make an ungodly amount of money. Why is that? It's because people want to see the spectacle. What is the purpose of sports aside from entertaining the public? If this fight does the numbers that you and I both think it will, that means that the masses expect to be entertained, and the bout serves its purpose, which is the only true purpose in professional sports.

Dude, you keep writing shit that I can't help but agree with at an intuitive level.