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Wild

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Sivar has more tools on the feet and better BJJ. Jeremy runs out of ideas when that big overhand right doesn't land.
I just think Siver is on the downside of his career. But hell...maybe Stephens is as well, so who knows how that one would play out. I would lean towards Stephens though, just because he's got power that could end it.
 

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I just think Siver is on the downside of his career. But hell...maybe Stephens is as well, so who knows how that one would play out. I would lean towards Stephens though, just because he's got power that could end it.
It's a close fight either way. I wouldn't bet on it.
 

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Thank you very much for not only participating, but for breaking down each match up. I'd say I agree to strongly agree with most of your assessments. Not sure about Faber/Frankie though. Frankie for sure has lost close decisions and Faber only loses in title fights so if this stands true, Expect to see Frankie finished which is super hard to do. Now that I typed that, I go back to my original statement not sure about Faber/frankie.

How of the
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matches I gave, which one of each division do you want to see most, and out of all division match ups, what ONE fight do you want to see the most?

Also, I was close to mentioning Rory/Condit but due to Rory already fighting and Condit being off a layoff, I'd want Condit to get a warm up win first before fighting top 2/top3 Rory Macdonald.

Speaking of Rory, did you hear his latest interview? How he's a purist and prefers limited rules that allow kicks/knees to downed opponent and headbutts? Dude won me some points there.
So for each div the fights I'd like are.

FW - Mended vs Edgar as this would be able to answer some good questions. Both have a very similar yet different style. Basically same tools used differently, boxing and wrestling. Frankie utilizes the speed, accuracy and endurance of the two arts while Chad has had great success with using big power, risks and looks to finish more.

LW - Gil vs Johnson This would be one of the old vs new match ups I'd love as Gil isn't on the downside yet but just seemed to stop evolving. Tough to predict but great to watch.

WW - Brown vs Carlos This could be a great fight to watch. Neither guy is easy to break and both look for the finish and get tougher as the fight goes. I'd bet on Condit as he has to be looking to get back up there and I really don't see Matt holding a top 3 spot for any length of time. Browns real good its just that WW is a deep div.

MW - Machida vs Rockhold Two super talented guys who I find very entertaining. Luke is such a big MW and I think he can be champ soon but Lyoto is fucking tricky man. I'd curious the odds when this goes down, if Luke can win I think that will out Lyoto in MMA purgatory :( I'd like to think Lyoto can stay away and blast some counters and shrug off the TD with trips.

LHW - Shogun vs Lil Not and tbh this doesn't really fire me up. I really wish Shogun and a bunch of other guys from that era would not compete anymore.

HW - Either AA vs Barnett or Stipe vs Browne. HW and WW are my favorite divisions and if its top 5-7 guys or anybody old school I'm pumped. I'd kill to see AA keep winning, I was such a big fan back when he was kicking ass and its cool to see him win again.

Out of all those I'd have to say Lyoto vs Luke is the most interesting but a close second for excitement would be Johnson vs Gil. As far as Rory ya that's awesome. He said the same in the JRE. We all know I'm a big fan so I don't really get how some people trash on him so much especially after getting some great interviews in lately. I really believe he's a future champ, hopefully it happens when I'm in LV this summer :)
 

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Purely based on the answers in this thread, I am pulling for Uriah Faber to upset Frankie :)

Then it's team alpha male vs team alpha male Faber vs Mendez.(actually on 2nd thought, maybe Faber winning wouldn't be so great)
 

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Good job Priziest. I changed my original ranking from funny to winner regarding your prediction post.
 

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Featherweight-
Makwan Amirkhani vs Sam Sicilia
Makwan Amirkhani vs Diego Brandao
Cole Miller vs Charles Oliveira
Cole Miller vs Makwan Amirkhani
Charles Oliveira
vs Max Holloway
Denis Siva vs Jeremy Stephens
Frankie Edgar
vs Chad Mendes
Frankie Edgar vs Uriah Faber(Scheduled)
I thought I had more hypothetical lmatch ups with Holloway, but I guess I only listed the one.

Anyways, I re-visited this thread to see if anyone picked against Max and you are the only one IWEI. So that leads me to ask, do you still think Oliveira beats Max Holloway?
 

John M

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Featherweight- Makwan Amirkhani vs Sam Sicilia
Makwan Amirkhani vs Diego Brandao
Cole Miller vs Charles Oliveira
Cole Miller vs Makwan Amirkhani
Charles Oliveira vs Max Holloway
Denis Siva vs Jeremy Stephens
Frankie Edgar vs Chad Mendes
Frankie Edgar vs Uriah Faber(Scheduled)

Lightweight
Eddie Alvarez vs Myles Jury
Josh Thomson vs Jim Miller
Jim Miller vs Al Iaquinta
Bobby Green vs Jorge Masvidal
Gilbert Melendez vs Michael Johnson
Eddie Alvarez vs Josh Thomson

Welterweight
Gunnar Nelson vs Kelvin Gastelum
Tarec Saffiedine vs Hector Lombard
Dong Hyun Kim vs Jake Ellenberger
Matt Brown vs Carlos Condit
Demian Maia vs Gunnar Nelson

Middleweight
Gegard Mousasi vs Yoel Romero
Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza vs Yoel Romero(scheduled)
Vitor Belfort vs Chris Weidman(Scheduled)
Lyoto Machida vs Luke Rockhold(Scheduled)

LightHeavyWeight
Jimi Manuwa vs Ovince St Preux
Phil Davis vs Shogun Rua
Lil Nog vs Shogun(Scheduled)
Ryan Bader vs Rashad Evans
Patrick Cummins vs Fabio Maldonado

Heavyweight
Roy Nelson vs Ben Rothwell
Stefan Struve vs Antonio Bigfoot Silva
Matt Mitrione vs Andre Arvloski
Andre Arvloski vs Josh Barnett
Josh Barnett vs Ben Rothwell
Josh Barnett vs Travis Browne 2
Frank Mir vs Josh Barnett
Frank Mir vs Fabricio Werdum
Stipe Miocic vs Travis Browne
Alistair Overeem vs JDS
JDS vs Werdum 2
Mark Hunt vs Alistair Overeem 2
Josh Barnett vs Big Nog the trilogy
 

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I thought I had more hypothetical lmatch ups with Holloway, but I guess I only listed the one.

Anyways, I re-visited this thread to see if anyone picked against Max and you are the only one IWEI. So that leads me to ask, do you still think Oliveira beats Max Holloway?
I think it would be a hell of a fight. Like Max, Oliveira is long and fights long...and he's a big FW. He is also slick on the ground, so I don't see Max having his way like he did with Swanson. Toss up, but yeah, I could see Charles winning it for sure.
 

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As of two days ago, Max was ranked #9, Charles Oliveira ranked #8

Charles' next fight is against #7 ranked Nik Lentz,

where as Max Holloway's fight yesterday was against #5 ranked Cub Swanson

IWEI, I think this discussion between you and me is leading towards a possible fight with Holloway vs Oliveira. Normally I wouldn't offer a friendly bet on a fighter I'm not attached to or a match up I'm not confident in, but based on how things are working out I suggest if this fight is made in the next year, we screen name bet, you got Charles I got Max.

Whatduyya say?
 

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As of two days ago, Max was ranked #9, Charles Oliveira ranked #8

Charles' next fight is against #7 ranked Nik Lentz,

where as Max Holloway's fight yesterday was against #5 ranked Cub Swanson

IWEI, I think this discussion between you and me is leading towards a possible fight with Holloway vs Oliveira. Normally I wouldn't offer a friendly bet on a fighter I'm not attached to or a match up I'm not confident in, but based on how things are working out I suggest if this fight is made in the next year, we screen name bet, you got Charles I got Max.

Whatduyya say?
 

Zeph

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I think it would be a hell of a fight. Like Max, Oliveira is long and fights long...and he's a big FW. He is also slick on the ground, so I don't see Max having his way like he did with Swanson. Toss up, but yeah, I could see Charles winning it for sure.
Max knocks him out.
 

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It's okay Zeph @Zeph He picked Corey Anderson and Eddie Gordon originally in this last UFC, I wouldn't take his fight outcome predictions too serious. He's also the only one on this thread to pick Charles over Max, so that only makes me feel better about this possible bet. Nik Lentz will probably derail things though.
 

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It's okay Zeph @Zeph He picked Corey Anderson and Eddie Gordon originally in this last UFC, I wouldn't take his fight outcome predictions too serious. He's also the only one on this thread to pick Charles over Max, so that only makes me feel better about this possible bet. Nik Lentz will probably derail things though.
Honestly, I thought both Anderson and Gordon would win too, but not enough to bet on them. :)
 

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Since you picked this the day after it happened, can you tell us what your prediction was two days ago?
Rockhold. I picked him in the ATM thing. Too big, too long and too young for Machida I thought. I was thinking an RNC, though more like round 4.