Cerrone: Cormier fought 'like a f*g' against Anderson Silva at UFC 200

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stielar

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No one here grabbed their pitchfork, it was you who went out of your way to glorify the comment. I don't see you everyday, so I have no idea if you use words like that, but if your opinion of someone changes from negative to positive because they use a homophobic slur, you need to reevaluate your value system.
I glorified the guy - and I do use the word "glorify" because he changed his tune later on - due to what ndnh said above. Everyone says this in private conversations, but say it in public and it's a cardinal sin. The ufc will allow Connor McGregor and Jon Jones insult their opponents' families to hype their fight - and people will love them for it too - but oh don't anyone use the word faggot, that's unethical and offending.

Just another case of pretentious political correctness...
 

Kingtony87

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Didn't particularly like Cerrone until yesterday.

Now he's my favourite fighter. It takes balls to call someone a fag publicly in the dictatorship of liberal america nowdays. And no, I don't hate gay people, nor do I wish them anything but well, but I can't stand the gay agenda being pushed everywhere. There's hunger in the world, people are homeless, people are dying everyday in wars, drug abuse is rampant all over the world, but the issue that is most important for zuffa is gay rights.

War Cerrone. Fuck zuffa.
Fag
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I glorified the guy - and I do use the word "glorify" because he changed his tune later on - due to what ndnh said above. Everyone says this in private conversations, but say it in public and it's a cardinal sin. The ufc will allow Connor McGregor and Jon Jones insult their opponents' families to hype their fight - and people will love them for it too - but oh don't anyone use the word faggot, that's unethical and offending.

Just another case of pretentious political correctness...
No, it's an example of society trying to evolve. If the word goes away in public, there's a possibility that our kids won't even know it, and in turn think to use it in a negative context. No idea why you're trying to compare Conor or JBJ, or anyone else to the term fag, or faggot.
 

stielar

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No, it's an example of society trying to evolve. If the word goes away in public, there's a possibility that our kids won't even know it, and in turn think to use it in a negative context. No idea why you're trying to compare Conor or JBJ, or anyone else to the term fag, or faggot.
You know very well what I'm trying to say. You are very selective about what word you don't want your kid to know. You're fine if your kid learns the words motherfucker, bum, bitch, son of a bitch, whore and others, but you take great care so that the word faggot is excluded from your kid's vocabulary. This is not trying to make your kid ethical at all.

Either we should condemn profanity and punish all fighters who use any sort of demeaning term, or just let it go altogether. You can't listen to McGregor insult people who don't have enough money and laugh about it and on the flipside listen to Cerrone or Mitrione say something about faggots and condemn / punish them.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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You know very well what I'm trying to say. You are very selective about what word you don't want your kid to know. You're fine if your kid learns the words motherfucker, bum, bitch, son of a bitch, whore and others, but you take great care so that the word faggot is excluded from your kid's vocabulary. This is not trying to make your kid ethical at all.
If everyone who is called a motherfucker, bum, son of a bitch, whore and others get together and say "Listen, that represents something really awful to me, and reminds me of a time where I'd be beaten or killed just for being myself. I don't want to be called that anymore" then sure we can add those to the list too, but until then don't try to compare them they aren't at all the same.
 
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Either we should condemn profanity and punish all fighters who use any sort of demeaning term, or just let it go altogether.
At least 3 logical fallacies in this one sentence of your argument, man.

If you can't see how saying the word "fag" is different from saying the word "motherfucker", I really don't know what to tell you.
 

stielar

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If everyone who is called a motherfucker, bum, son of a bitch, whore and others get together and say "Listen, that represents something really awful to me, and reminds me of a time where I'd be beaten or killed just for being myself. I don't want to be called that anymore" then sure we can add those to the list too, but until then don't try to compare them they aren't at all the same.
No one condones beating or killing gay people, that's common sense. What you refer to is actually bullying. And all the terms I mentioned above are used in bulllying as well. It's as much if not more probable someone hearing the phrase "Hey pussy, I'll literally kill you" to be reminded of a time being bullied or beaten as a gay person hearing the word faggot. So let's stop using double-standards.
 

stielar

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If you can't see how saying the word "fag" is different from saying the word "motherfucker"
Yes I can, I find the word motherfucker much more insulting actually. Someone's mother for me is something sacred. I know that in the us it has sort of an altered meaning, after using it for anything, but for me the word mother is something I wouldn't play with. Different cultures, so I understand if you don't get it.
 
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Yes I can, I find the word motherfucker much more insulting actually. Someone's mother for me is something sacred. I know that in the us it has sort of an altered meaning, after using it for anything, but for me the word mother is something I wouldn't play with. Different cultures, so I understand if you don't get it.
It could definitely be a cultural/linguistic thing?

Do you live in an Anglo-Saxon country?
 

stielar

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Ok. Interesting. And I'm guessing the Greek translation of "motherfucker" is not common, everyday profanity?
There's not really a direct translation for it, so no one really uses this here. The most common word for profanity translates to something like wanker or jerk.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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There's not really a direct translation for it, so no one really uses this here. The most common word for profanity translates to something like wanker or jerk.
So you're offended by a term that you don't hear? This is false equivalence at its finest, lol.
 

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Exactly. A loss for Cormier would have been really bad, but a loss for Anderson doesn't negatively affect him in any way.



I'm ok with lettong Conor fight whoever he wants, because Conor is entertaining and his fights make the company a lot of money. But giving Dan Henderson a title shot just makes everything seem like a joke.
i think its only fair to do the same for one or all
 
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There's not really a direct translation for it, so no one really uses this here. The most common word for profanity translates to something like wanker or jerk.
I see. I remember GSP got really upset with Nick Diaz during the media call for their fight because Nick called him a motherfucker and Pierre thought he literally meant "person who fucks his own mother." Apparently French doesn't have a direct translation for it either.

Anyway in English I don't know if it ever literally meant "person who fucks mothers" but I don't think so. I'd have to check the etymology of the term. But at least in my lifetime, it's never been used as a derogatory term for a certain group in society.
 

Super Dave

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Brock hit Hunt with some heavy shots in the first round. He was trying to finish. That's why Hunt quickly tried to get to his feet. I don't understand why people are comparing DC's LNP to Brock's actual GNP.
I think it's because Brocks GnP is about as exciting as LnP.