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BeardOfKnowledge

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I think the Sheriff is 100% right, but that's just me. The only thing I think he did wrong was go on that show to begin with.
Well, his opinion is largely based one BLM being "based on a lie" because as he claims it was founded after the Ferguson. Missouri incident. That's factually incorrect. So his entire opinion was formed from misinformation that he 1) accepted as fact 2) is now passing along as fact.
 

KWingJitsu

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That's because a blind man can see there is a correlation between the two.
Blaming BLM for lone wolf (ex-military) cop killers...
is like blaming "Muslims" for ISIS...
 

seekntruth

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Okay, care to share the stats that back up this correlation?
What kind of stats would you like? Show me the stats that say they don't. That's just silly.

Protesters going around chanting violent rhetoric against law enforcement is a pretty obvious fire starter.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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What kind of stats would you like? Show me the stats that say they don't. That's just silly.

Protesters going around chanting violent rhetoric against law enforcement is a pretty obvious fire starter.
Except that we know both shooters had nothing to do with BLM and simply chose those protests to shoot at because they knew there'd be cops there.

My serious question is why do police departments show up to BLM protests?

Here's BLM's webpage. It might actually be worth giving a quick skim through:

http://blacklivesmatter.com/
 

seekntruth

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Except that we know both shooters had nothing to do with BLM and simply chose those protests to shoot at because they knew there'd be cops there.

My serious question is why do police departments show up to BLM protests?

Here's BLM's webpage. It might actually be worth giving a quick skim through:

http://blacklivesmatter.com/
Just because "shooters had nothing" to do with BLM in no way means they weren't an influence.

Police show up to ALL protests. That's what they do. Protests of anything, are often a hotbed for violence and vandalism, both by and against protesters. They are there to make sure everyone behaves.

I'll be glad to look at your link :cheers:
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Just because "shooters had nothing" to do with BLM in no way means they weren't an influence.
Well, yes, it does. If someone kills a bunch of people at a Yankees game, you don't get to blame the Yankees for having a game. We know in both of those instances there were looking for police officers to kill. The BLM protest was just a convenient place to do it.

Police show up to ALL protests. That's what they do. Protests of anything, are often a hotbed for violence and vandalism, both by and against protesters. They are there to make sure everyone behaves.
I completely understand what you're saying, but the reason I asked is that; if a group is legally assembling to exercise their first amendment right, why do the people who represent the establishment being protested have to show up and attempt to manage it? Seems to me like that's asking for trouble at this point.

I'll be glad to look at your link
Not my link bro, just a link. Might shed some light on what the movement is supposed to be about though rather than what the media outlets are painting it as.
 

seekntruth

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Here's BLM's webpage. It might actually be worth giving a quick skim through:

http://blacklivesmatter.com/
I read through and I am not impressed. I saw no mention of the 90% of black murders in the US being committed by blacks, or despite only accounting for 13% of the population, blacks commit over 50% of the nations murders. I guess all those black lives don't matter? It struck me as a website looking to blame one communities problems by blaming another, without bearing any responsibility.
 

seekntruth

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Well, yes, it does. If someone kills a bunch of people at a Yankees game, you don't get to blame the Yankees for having a game. We know in both of those instances there were looking for police officers to kill. The BLM protest was just a convenient place to do it.
That is an absurd analogy. Now if the Yankees PA guy was chanting for fans to kill other fans, then yes, the Yankees would bear some responsibility.

The Dallas protesters from most accounts were very peaceful, but there are other BLM protests in other places that have not been as responsible and in my opinion bear some responsibility for the violent rhetoric.
 

KWingJitsu

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No the equivalent would be to blame Isis for "lone wolf terrorists". That would be a much closer analogy. Isis isn't a representation of all Muslims, just as BLM isn't a representation of all Blacks.
Okay... but following your logic through, these lone wolf cop killers aren't a representation of BLM.

As for BLM, they are primarily an anti-police brutality group. I wouldn't worry about or correlate that with black on black crime since no one seems to care about that - unless BLM brings up police crime...
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I read through and I am not impressed. I saw no mention of the 90% of black murders in the US being committed by blacks, or despite only accounting for 13% of the population, blacks commit over 50% of the nations murders. I guess all those black lives don't matter? It struck me as a website looking to blame one communities problems by blaming another, without bearing any responsibility.
Did you find the part where they advocate violence against police officers?
 

seekntruth

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Okay... but following your logic through, these lone wolf cop killers aren't a representation of BLM.

As for BLM, they are primarily an anti-police brutality group. I wouldn't worry about or correlate that with black on black crime since no one seems to care about that - unless BLM brings up police crime...
I'm 100% against police brutality, but fostering an atmosphere for cop hate is not helping any one. According to BLM's own website it was created because of the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident...that has nothing to do with police brutality.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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That is an absurd analogy. Now if the Yankees PA guy was chanting for fans to kill other fans, then yes, the Yankees would bear some responsibility.

The Dallas protesters from most accounts were very peaceful, but there are other BLM protests in other places that have not been as responsible and in my opinion bear some responsibility for the violent rhetoric.
Except that Dallas was where most of the violence happened. So as I said earlier, there's no correlation.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I'm 100% against police brutality, but fostering an atmosphere for cop hate is not helping any one. According to BLM's own website it was created because of the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident...that has nothing to do with police brutality.
So you're actually acknowledging that the intention of the movement has nothing to do with violence against police officers?
 

seekntruth

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Did you find the part where they advocate violence against police officers?
I've seen many videos where they do...would you like me to post them? Their website is one aspect of their movement. If they are engaged in protests and don't want to be associated with advocating violence against police officers than they need to be vigilant in ejecting that type of protestor.
 

IschKabibble

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What's even stranger is how the cop killers were actually ex military (sniper & marine) and not part of BLM, but that seems to somehow be overlooked. Maybe ban the military:rolleyes:?
How could you possibly argue that those cop ambushes weren't a direct result of the BLM movement?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I've seen many videos where they do...would you like me to post them? Their website is one aspect of their movement. If they are engaged in protests and don't want to be associated with advocating violence against police officers than they need to be vigilant in ejecting that type of protestor.
So you're expecting them to police the general public and break laws in order to do it?

absoloutely not
Even though you just said that the movements founding had nothing to do with police brutality. You're starting to fill in a lot of blanks so you can keep up the rhetoric about them being violent.